So apparently, I should be in bed, not driving around at 3am according to the police
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Original post by arkhamz
Are you serious? I wouldn't tell them to **** off but I wouldn't kiss their arse either. Also, I'm sure everyone is glad this isn't the states, their cops are power tripping ***** for the most part.
IMO, if you're bolshy with the police, you deserve whatever you're going to get. They'll treat you with the respect you treat them, and you really don't want to piss coppers off. Its 100% guaranteed that if they wanted to ruin your day, they could.
Original post by czechmishaout
I understand the cop was doing his job, but seriously, it's none of his business. I can go for a drive at night if I want to and don't have to explain.
I'm 19, but look about 15, so I often get those 'what are you doing behind the wheel' looks. Especially when I drive across the town at 2 am to pick my dad up from a social gathering. As long as I'm not endangering anybody, it's my business.
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I'm 19, but look about 15, so I often get those 'what are you doing behind the wheel' looks. Especially when I drive across the town at 2 am to pick my dad up from a social gathering. As long as I'm not endangering anybody, it's my business.
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You have just summed up perfectly exactly why they should stop you.
"I'm 19, but look about 15". Their job is to look out for, and act upon, anything suspicious or potentially illegal, and if you look as young as you say you do then to a passing officer it could appear that you are too young to legally drive, and so their job is to check to see if you are legal or not.
Let me put it this way. Would you prefer it if the police never stopped you despite you looking too young to drive? Of course you would.
Would you be pissed off if you got crashed in to by somebody who was actually too young to drive, who had been seen but ignored by police officers prior to the accident? Of course you would.
At the end of the day if you look like potentially you aren't driving legally then it is the responsibility of the police to see if that is the case or not. Sure it can be annoying if you are legal and they stop you, but equally it would be incredibly annoying if somebody who wasn't legal caused an accident after the police ignored them.
Original post by The Jargen
You don't have to answer to these scum.
Sadly S.163 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 says otherwise...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/163
Original post by cole-slaw
I once had two coppers follow me into a parking lot and box me in to make sure I couldn't escape.
Why? because I was wearing a baseball cap and apparently that's suspicious. lol.
I was polite, they ran the plates and apologised and drove off. No big deal.
Why? because I was wearing a baseball cap and apparently that's suspicious. lol.
I was polite, they ran the plates and apologised and drove off. No big deal.
I bet they feel right goons having to do these random checks all the time, but I'm glad that they do.
The amount of actual criminals they catch by doing so is easily worth people having to spare a couple of minutes here and there.
Original post by Mighty Eagle
I was up late on Thursday night after spending hours on the computer and watching tv, I decided I was peckish so went out in my car to McDonald's for some food and a mocha drink, I then decided I fancied a little drive so I just drove out for 10 miles or so as I love quiet roads, I was driving within the speed limits on a quiet road with no houses in sight, just open fields and I suddenly noticed a police car, it flashed me to pull over so I did, the male officer asked me a few questions
Him . Hi sir, what are you doing up and about this time of night
Me. I've just been out to McDonald's for food and fancied a ride out, is that okay ?
Him. It's an unusual time , most people your age are at home asleep at this time
Me. I was hungry I am aloud to eat
the conversation went something like that anyway, he was basically saying I shouldn't be out at that time but it really wound me up, I am 22 years old for goodness sake, I wasn't breaking the law and yet I was stopped and quizzed like a criminal
Anybody else been stopped by police just for being out and about late at night ?
Him . Hi sir, what are you doing up and about this time of night
Me. I've just been out to McDonald's for food and fancied a ride out, is that okay ?
Him. It's an unusual time , most people your age are at home asleep at this time
Me. I was hungry I am aloud to eat
the conversation went something like that anyway, he was basically saying I shouldn't be out at that time but it really wound me up, I am 22 years old for goodness sake, I wasn't breaking the law and yet I was stopped and quizzed like a criminal
Anybody else been stopped by police just for being out and about late at night ?
Sounds like they were just checking. Nothing to worry about really - they were probably just doing their job and if you had seemed more suspicious, they might have investigated further. There are many legitimate reasons for driving around in the early morning - driving to a shift job, picking someone up from a club etc., but also many shady ones, and it was well within their rights to check and be sure.
Original post by redferry
for my dissertation I did a project where I tracked foxes until 4AM. Was stopped soooo many times by police for erratic driving, loitering outside peoples houses etc.
It's an unusual time to be out at night - there's nothing wrong with it but the likelihood of you being up to something/over the limit is necessarily much higher than during the day, so the police are more likely to stop you. It sounds to me like the police officer was actually pretty polite about it. If you have nothing to hide, why should it be a problem?
Original post by zippyRN
Sadly S.163 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 says otherwise...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/163
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/163
Did I say you don't have to answer to them or stop for them?
I think a lot of people are getting caught up in their own self-importance here.
Policing a society doesn't mean policing everyone apart from you. You know what you are doing, but I don't expect many police officers carry crystal balls around with them. Consequently, it is reasonable for anyone, in a well-policed society, to be stopped and questioned by a police officer, particularly if they're doing something odd. If you're doing nothing wrong, they'll move on. It's a sad fact of life that particular demographic groups (young men, for example) are more likely to be involved in criminal activity, so naturally these groups will attract a disproportionate amount of attention if they're doing something which the police officer's experience suggests might be suspicious.
I can sympathise with the tiny minority of people who are genuinely mistreated by the police. But ill-socialised children who think they 'know their rights' and refuse to cooperate really aren't helping.
Policing a society doesn't mean policing everyone apart from you. You know what you are doing, but I don't expect many police officers carry crystal balls around with them. Consequently, it is reasonable for anyone, in a well-policed society, to be stopped and questioned by a police officer, particularly if they're doing something odd. If you're doing nothing wrong, they'll move on. It's a sad fact of life that particular demographic groups (young men, for example) are more likely to be involved in criminal activity, so naturally these groups will attract a disproportionate amount of attention if they're doing something which the police officer's experience suggests might be suspicious.
I can sympathise with the tiny minority of people who are genuinely mistreated by the police. But ill-socialised children who think they 'know their rights' and refuse to cooperate really aren't helping.
Original post by Mighty Eagle
I was up late on Thursday night after spending hours on the computer and watching tv, I decided I was peckish so went out in my car to McDonald's for some food and a mocha drink, I then decided I fancied a little drive so I just drove out for 10 miles or so as I love quiet roads, I was driving within the speed limits on a quiet road with no houses in sight, just open fields and I suddenly noticed a police car, it flashed me to pull over so I did, the male officer asked me a few questions
Him . Hi sir, what are you doing up and about this time of night
Me. I've just been out to McDonald's for food and fancied a ride out, is that okay ?
Him. It's an unusual time , most people your age are at home asleep at this time
Me. I was hungry I am aloud to eat
the conversation went something like that anyway, he was basically saying I shouldn't be out at that time but it really wound me up, I am 22 years old for goodness sake, I wasn't breaking the law and yet I was stopped and quizzed like a criminal
Anybody else been stopped by police just for being out and about late at night ?
Him . Hi sir, what are you doing up and about this time of night
Me. I've just been out to McDonald's for food and fancied a ride out, is that okay ?
Him. It's an unusual time , most people your age are at home asleep at this time
Me. I was hungry I am aloud to eat
the conversation went something like that anyway, he was basically saying I shouldn't be out at that time but it really wound me up, I am 22 years old for goodness sake, I wasn't breaking the law and yet I was stopped and quizzed like a criminal
Anybody else been stopped by police just for being out and about late at night ?
Grow up. You weren't "quizzed like a criminal". You were stopped because you are young and were out driving in the middle of the night and potentially it could have been as a result of some illegal actions. Around where I live it's incredibly common for young guys to be caught driving stolen cars, or driving without a license, or in possession of various drugs when they are stopped in the middle of the night. Would you rather the police mildly inconvenienced some law abiding folks and also caught a lot of people who were driving illegally, or played it safe, stopped far less people but missed a lot more illegal drivers?
They didn't accuse you of anything, they didn't take up more than a couple of minutes of your time, they didn't do anything out of order, they simply stopped you for a couple of minutes to check that everything was legal and above board before sending you on your way.
As for "he was basically saying I shouldn't be out at that time", no he wasn't you moron. "It's an unusual time , most people your age are at home asleep at this time" was the reason he gave for pulling you over. He wasn't saying you shouldn't be out at that time, just that it is unusual to see somebody your kind of age driving around at that time, hence out of the ordinary, hence worth checking up on.
"Anybody else been stopped by police just for being out and about late at night?"
Yes I have, and not just at night. I've been stopped about a dozen times in the last year. Want to know why? Well because while I may be 23 I do look quite a bit younger, most people at first glance put me at about 18/19, and I am insured on all of the cars in our household which includes a 63 plate BMW M3. Is it normal for somebody who looks that young to be driving a car that cost damn near £60k when new? No it's not, hence it's suspicious, hence it's something they should check. Each time it's taken no more than a few minutes to verify that I am insured to drive that car and then I've been on my way. A minor inconvenience but hardly a big problem. Plus I would much, much rather that the police stop too many people including plenty of law abiding people if it means catching more criminals than I would they stop too few and let lots more criminals get away with it.
Original post by mackemforever
Of course, because acting like a complete **** towards somebody who is simply doing their job is the right way to go.
Police officers are meant to be aware of anything potentially suspicious, and with somebody young, out in the middle of the night, it's worth checking up on as there is always the possibility that there could be something dodgy going on. All he did was stop the OP to see if everything was above board and let him leave.
Probably took no more than a minute or two of the OPs time, not exactly an inconvenience
whereas if you did choose to act like a complete **** all you would end up doing is wasting the officers time and yours for no reason whatsoever.
Original post by russellsteapot
I think a lot of people are getting caught up in their own self-importance here.
Policing a society doesn't mean policing everyone apart from you. You know what you are doing, but I don't expect many police officers carry crystal balls around with them. Consequently, it is reasonable for anyone, in a well-policed society, to be stopped and questioned by a police officer, particularly if they're doing something odd. If you're doing nothing wrong, they'll move on. It's a sad fact of life that particular demographic groups (young men, for example) are more likely to be involved in criminal activity, so naturally these groups will attract a disproportionate amount of attention if they're doing something which the police officer's experience suggests might be suspicious.
I can sympathise with the tiny minority of people who are genuinely mistreated by the police. But ill-socialised children who think they 'know their rights' and refuse to cooperate really aren't helping.
Policing a society doesn't mean policing everyone apart from you. You know what you are doing, but I don't expect many police officers carry crystal balls around with them. Consequently, it is reasonable for anyone, in a well-policed society, to be stopped and questioned by a police officer, particularly if they're doing something odd. If you're doing nothing wrong, they'll move on. It's a sad fact of life that particular demographic groups (young men, for example) are more likely to be involved in criminal activity, so naturally these groups will attract a disproportionate amount of attention if they're doing something which the police officer's experience suggests might be suspicious.
I can sympathise with the tiny minority of people who are genuinely mistreated by the police. But ill-socialised children who think they 'know their rights' and refuse to cooperate really aren't helping.
This
Lol. This always happens to me when i'm parked up at night!
1 pig parked up behind me on my driveway and knocked on my window to ask "What are you doing?". I replied "Get off my driveway" and we had a pleasant conversation from there on till he left.
They just generally have nothing better to do at 3am IMO. We need more cutbacks
1 pig parked up behind me on my driveway and knocked on my window to ask "What are you doing?". I replied "Get off my driveway" and we had a pleasant conversation from there on till he left.
They just generally have nothing better to do at 3am IMO. We need more cutbacks
So everyone badmouthing the police wouldn't bother calling them if your mother got beat down and robbed then?
They do a good job the majority of the time. Like every profession, people make mistakes. It's these 'mistakes' that people hear about and suddenly go around saying '**** the police'. It's really not needed.
As for the police stopping the OP, as another poster stated, it's unusual. Unusual can be suspicious. They have every right to check you out and make sure everything is legal.
They do a good job the majority of the time. Like every profession, people make mistakes. It's these 'mistakes' that people hear about and suddenly go around saying '**** the police'. It's really not needed.
As for the police stopping the OP, as another poster stated, it's unusual. Unusual can be suspicious. They have every right to check you out and make sure everything is legal.
Original post by mackemforever
Grow up. You weren't "quizzed like a criminal". You were stopped because you are young and were out driving in the middle of the night and potentially it could have been as a result of some illegal actions. Around where I live it's incredibly common for young guys to be caught driving stolen cars, or driving without a license, or in possession of various drugs when they are stopped in the middle of the night. Would you rather the police mildly inconvenienced some law abiding folks and also caught a lot of people who were driving illegally, or played it safe, stopped far less people but missed a lot more illegal drivers?
They didn't accuse you of anything, they didn't take up more than a couple of minutes of your time, they didn't do anything out of order, they simply stopped you for a couple of minutes to check that everything was legal and above board before sending you on your way.
As for "he was basically saying I shouldn't be out at that time", no he wasn't you moron. "It's an unusual time , most people your age are at home asleep at this time" was the reason he gave for pulling you over. He wasn't saying you shouldn't be out at that time, just that it is unusual to see somebody your kind of age driving around at that time, hence out of the ordinary, hence worth checking up on.
"Anybody else been stopped by police just for being out and about late at night?"
Yes I have, and not just at night. I've been stopped about a dozen times in the last year. Want to know why? Well because while I may be 23 I do look quite a bit younger, most people at first glance put me at about 18/19, and I am insured on all of the cars in our household which includes a 63 plate BMW M3. Is it normal for somebody who looks that young to be driving a car that cost damn near £60k when new? No it's not, hence it's suspicious, hence it's something they should check. Each time it's taken no more than a few minutes to verify that I am insured to drive that car and then I've been on my way. A minor inconvenience but hardly a big problem. Plus I would much, much rather that the police stop too many people including plenty of law abiding people if it means catching more criminals than I would they stop too few and let lots more criminals get away with it.
They didn't accuse you of anything, they didn't take up more than a couple of minutes of your time, they didn't do anything out of order, they simply stopped you for a couple of minutes to check that everything was legal and above board before sending you on your way.
As for "he was basically saying I shouldn't be out at that time", no he wasn't you moron. "It's an unusual time , most people your age are at home asleep at this time" was the reason he gave for pulling you over. He wasn't saying you shouldn't be out at that time, just that it is unusual to see somebody your kind of age driving around at that time, hence out of the ordinary, hence worth checking up on.
"Anybody else been stopped by police just for being out and about late at night?"
Yes I have, and not just at night. I've been stopped about a dozen times in the last year. Want to know why? Well because while I may be 23 I do look quite a bit younger, most people at first glance put me at about 18/19, and I am insured on all of the cars in our household which includes a 63 plate BMW M3. Is it normal for somebody who looks that young to be driving a car that cost damn near £60k when new? No it's not, hence it's suspicious, hence it's something they should check. Each time it's taken no more than a few minutes to verify that I am insured to drive that car and then I've been on my way. A minor inconvenience but hardly a big problem. Plus I would much, much rather that the police stop too many people including plenty of law abiding people if it means catching more criminals than I would they stop too few and let lots more criminals get away with it.
After having read replies to my thread I say I do understand and yes I was only stopped for a few minutes , I just get anxious sometimes especially around police, when they flashed me I was shaking like a leaf because of my anxiety and felt I was going to have a heart attack and why, because I wanted a McDonald's .
But Yes. I understand and you made some good points but please don't call me names like moron
Original post by russellsteapot
Once or twice. I don't really mind to be honest. Suspicion is always going to be based on things out of the ordinary, and a young man driving around at 3am is out of the ordinary.
Policing relies heavily on instinct and looking for unusual things. It might seem like you're being treated as a criminal but I think it's reasonable to sacrifice a tiny bit of freedom for good policing.
Policing relies heavily on instinct and looking for unusual things. It might seem like you're being treated as a criminal but I think it's reasonable to sacrifice a tiny bit of freedom for good policing.
Which of their spicy senses were tingling when i was parked on my drive with the engine off and my house lights on?
Original post by uxa595
Which of their spicy senses were tingling when i was parked on my drive with the engine off and my house lights on?
Who knows, my own senses are misbehaving. If I saw someone sat in a car on a drive with the engine off I might think they were stealing it, I suppose. A good number of cars are stolen from driveways, and sitting in one without the engine running might raise some eyebrows. I'm sure they had a reasonable reason rather than "let's go and see what this individual is doing, that'll annoy him, he he he".
Original post by Red one
You should have sped off.
Nope, because they could warrant a chase, then they could make up an excuse to search your car under a road traffic act e.g. drugs.
I see where you're coming from OP that would piss me off as well.
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