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    The left is so culturally relativist that it allows conservative strands of culture and religion to peddle homophobia under its nose, all in the name of multiculturalism.

    The right allies itself with conservative strands of Christianity in particular, which views gays as sinners, and harks back to a time when gay people were in the shadows.

    It seems that gay people are like turkeys voting for Christmas no matter which party they tick on the ballot paper.

    Thoughts?
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    If what you say was true, legislation on gay marriage would never have been passed and gay men would find themselves in prison for gross indecency.
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    (Original post by Lady Comstock)
    The left is so culturally relativist that it allows conservative strands of culture and religion to peddle homophobia under its nose, all in the name of multiculturalism.

    The right allies itself with conservative strands of Christianity in particular, which views gays as sinners, and harks back to a time when gay people were in the shadows.

    It seems that gay people are like turkeys voting for Christmas no matter which party they tick on the ballot paper.

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    Conservatives brought in same sex marriage, did they not?
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    The bill for gay marriage was passed with a majority of 366 to 161 so... They must have some allies.
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    (Original post by limetang)
    The bill for gay marriage was passed with a majority of 366 to 161 so... They must have some allies.
    161 wow lol
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    (Original post by TheTechN1304)
    Conservatives brought in same sex marriage, did they not?
    But gays voting Tory is still a case of voting for a party which has a substantial core opposed to gay people. Gay marriage does not invalidate that or make the Tories a political ally for gay people.
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    (Original post by Lady Comstock)
    But gays voting Tory is still a case of voting for a party which has a substantial core opposed to gay people. Gay marriage does not invalidate that or make the Tories a political ally for gay people.
    Traditionally maybe, but that's not really the case anymore. For the party to have passed it, it would have needed a lot of support (which it got), so its not like there were only 3 people who decided they wanted to introduce it.
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    (Original post by TheTechN1304)
    Traditionally maybe, but that's not really the case anymore. For the party to have passed it, it would have needed a lot of support (which it got), so its not like there were only 3 people who decided they wanted to introduce it.
    The tories had to rely on the Lib Dems and Labour to pass the bill, there was a huge back bench rebellion among the tories and more voted against it than they did for it.
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    (Original post by Lady Comstock)
    The left is so culturally relativist that it allows conservative strands of culture and religion to peddle homophobia under its nose, all in the name of multiculturalism.

    The right allies itself with conservative strands of Christianity in particular, which views gays as sinners, and harks back to a time when gay people were in the shadows.

    It seems that gay people are like turkeys voting for Christmas no matter which party they tick on the ballot paper.

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    Here's a member of UKIPs opinions.

    http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/6060184

    Incidentally, the aforementioned MEP is openly gay.

    I think you've been a bit disengionious in your original post.
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    (Original post by DErasmus)
    161 wow lol
    Why wow?
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    (Original post by Lady Comstock)
    But gays voting Tory is still a case of voting for a party which has a substantial core opposed to gay people. Gay marriage does not invalidate that or make the Tories a political ally for gay people.
    Thats the same with whichever party and whichever issue you choose.
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    To say "the right is against gays because a lot of right-wing economic or social policy supporters are religious (therefore homophobic)" or " the left is too tolerant of all groups to crack down on homophobia" is very, very general of you. There are parties, politicians and most importantly people who support gay rights regardless of left or right-wing ideologies. Even the issue of gay "rights" is split- I support equal treatment of gay people as far as civil rights, duties, freedoms and responsibilities go, but I don't think a government should be pass laws forcing churches to marry gay couples. Marriage is not a right, and if the church (a private institution) doesn't want to marry gays then they shouldn't be forced.
 
 
 
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