The Manchester United Thread XIX

****ing hell.

Define ruined... morons.

Going from winning the league to finish 7th then get fourth and now struggling to get top 4 - getting thrashed by substandard teams and teams in the lower divisions in cups - getting KO of the UCL in the group stages despite having the easiest group - Sacking two managers in the process (if LVG is getting sacked) and spending 250m on players and still achieve nothing on the pitch - youth academy in need of serious reform - playing the worst brand of football possible - our goalkeeper is our best player (who might leave soon) - going on long winless runs - many fans are uninspired and have turned against the manager - City/Chelsea/Arsenal becoming more attractive for players - Glazers - 0 trophies since Fergie left and failure to get to the latter stages of any cup competition

In terms of who we are that is pretty dreadful and in comparison to where we were when SAF left I would say the club has been substantially ruined by poor management - the only person pulling their weight at the club is Ed - JM would do a much better job than LVG and Moyes and has a better CV than them, this guy is one of the best managers in the world!

LVG did not bring Januzaj into the first team.

Ok i'll give you that one...but the same exact point still remains he has done well to bring in youth to the first team.

And you still won't be as **** as Chelsea were in the first half of this season despite everything you've said.

Only done well to bring CBJ and thats it. I would say Pereira but he doesn't play him.

Come on you've got to give credit to Lingard and Varela too surely.

Lets all forget Lingard's contributions (including his goal at Chelsea)

I still dont believe both players are of the required starting 11 quality for Manchester United. Both should be squad players at most next season imo. Theres only really 2 positives in van Gaal's reign and thats giving youth a chance i guess and signing Martial.


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...but you're missing the point. No one said the bit in bold.

Also you have to take into account the fact that rebuilding teams takes a lot of time and cannot be done in 1.5 (or less) seasons alone. LVG has slowly started the process of rebuilding the team so the argument of "he spent 250M and we aren't getting anywhere" doesn't really make sense. You can't expect a team that's in the middle of a rebuilding strategy to perform like champions.

Are you honestly trying to imply that this season is yet another transitional period? Are you honestly having a laugh? Our transitional period was certainly last season. van Gaal has been ruthless in shipping out he deadwood and something which he deserves praise for but he's had his stamp on the football team and this is now his team and we're failing miserably this season. **** performances the entire season and you could count on a single hand of the amount of good quality performances we've had this entire season so far. How can you spent 250m (albeit Di Maria was a large part of that sum) and still be in a transitional period? Smh. No one is even talking about performing like champions, we all know that a title challenge would be slightly unrealistic this season but we should atleast be comfortably in the top 4 at the very least. Yet look where we are, we're 5th and like 5 points off 4th and its looking like we're incapable of closing that gap. You say transitional period then fine, but surely there has to be progress no? Are you implying that there has been progress this season from last?


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Hmm you say that but a lot of people still seem to have unrealistic expectations for this team, this season top 4 is the definitely the aim (which LVG has stated from the very start). We are still not quite there in terms of being a unstoppable force in the PL let alone in Europe. We have got rid of way too many players so obviously they must have a plan in place to replace them all slowly.

The season is not over yet so hold your horses, at this stage it's difficult to gauge on the overall progress but all we can do is have faith in our team and hope they can make top 4!

I'm sorry bro but for me, our league season is over. I dont think we'll make top 4 but it would be a pleasant surprise if we did.

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It's only natural though all good sides must go through some really tough periods, can't be always successful every single year! We will bounce back soon for sure (we won't become liverpool haha) but for now just have to endure whatever results we get.

I'm not gonna lie I do doubt we will make top 4 but part of me also thinks we can do it if other teams **** up and we just edge it out like last season...it's a nervy time but with 13 games to go that gives me hope

5 point gap can be closed but we arent capable of going on a run of wins. We honestly arent, we havent won 3 games in a row this season at all and we're inconsistent. I've just come to accept that we arent making top 4 even though a month back or so i was really confident that we'd comfortably finish top 4.


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