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Hi all.
So i was wondering and came to conclusion.
Yes muslim kill people etc in the name of allah, there are verses in quoran that they miss interpret.
One of the things i found on internet was this
They kill because they believe in :
''To die a martyr. Extremists wish for martyrdom, which is an easy entry to Paradise. But they have abused martyrdom, which does not apply to unjustified killing.''
But it doesnt apply to unjustified killing which gives me wondering if they are dumb or just their life sucked so bad they dont mind dying.
They using quoran to kill mainly the dumb people because the quoran was in like back in time where religions invaded each others kill etc, it was sort of ''religion of peace'' as it said yes it said to kill people but only when they attack you for example jews or christians will attack them then slaughter them kill etc which make sense but we live in 2017 and they still use this in order to ''get easy pass to heaven'' which results = they are dumb af now burning in hell.

I also came to conclusion that people say ''there are 2 types of muslims isis terrorists muslims and those who won't blow them self up etc but they support them'' So i think that those ''who support'' doesn't really support them but ''don't mind them'' but i think its case of being afraid.
Muslims are afraid to speak against ISIS, as it might mean they speak against allah which will result in them being killed too as those who are against allah can be killed, hands and feets chopped off etc etc [from quoran as it says ]

So i just think its being afraid of speaking what they want to speak.
No that i defend muslims as its not really religion of peace or not near close as its easy to misinterpret this book resulting in killing, but i think they need some sort of help ? as when you born muslim you cant really change religion =result in death or something else neither you can stop being muslim as its also = result death or something else so they basically born and stuck in this religion even tho inside some of muslim people head is ''i dont really wanna be muslim'' but they cant change this because they are scared.

I think UK gov as well as other countries should make some points/website for such muslim seeking for help and also ik it wont pass anywhere in 2017 and i might sound psycho but for those who would kill such person who swapped from religion or stop believing in allah or made terrorist attack in name of religion [islam] they just wanna die and they happy about it because they are brainwashed they will get easy pass so maybe police should shoot them in legs or something and then give them life sentence but with heavy torture so they will feel the pain for all the families etc, so instead they dying they will be tortured for rest of their lifes + we could get rid of some psychos from our community to do their job. It might sound cruel but i also thought about it and then they will start to just blow them self up all time so they die together while killing which wont really pass.


Another idea was for example in uk, its hard to get Gun. Ok not so hard to make bomb somehow or get knife etc.
So i was thinking of making a system in UK, for example every person in UK even if they not British citizen, everysingle person who is in UK should have some special ''card'', and every shop who sells for example knife or any weapon or something that makes bomb idk not an expert but im guessing some explosives, some explosive powders and flamable liquids too, will have a system that scans such card and in few seconds it checks all the information about the background of the person and tells the seller whether he can sell the item to person or not, if not shows red and the person tried to buy it, then it will send automatically quickly report to police who and where and what he tried to buy, so police could quickly arrive into shop check him and everything or maybe his house too and phone everything in order to create better safe country.
I think it would be good idea seems really hard but i dont think it would be that hard if GOV focused on it well they have a lot of people and eveyrhting that im guessing it would take about few months to make it come to work with a good effort. Of course it won't stop terrorists attack as they can find some other way but im sure it will make their life much more harder to make another terrorist attack

But yeah what do you think guys ?
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Hi all.
So i was wondering and came to conclusion.
Yes muslim kill people etc in the name of allah, there are verses in quoran that they miss interpret.
One of the things i found on internet was this
They kill because they believe in :
''To die a martyr. Extremists wish for martyrdom, which is an easy entry to Paradise. But they have abused martyrdom, which does not apply to unjustified killing.''
But it doesnt apply to unjustified killing which gives me wondering if they are dumb or just their life sucked so bad they dont mind dying.
They using quoran to kill mainly the dumb people because the quoran was in like back in time where religions invaded each others kill etc, it was sort of ''religion of peace'' as it said yes it said to kill people but only when they attack you for example jews or christians will attack them then slaughter them kill etc which make sense but we live in 2017 and they still use this in order to ''get easy pass to heaven'' which results = they are dumb af now burning in hell.

I also came to conclusion that people say ''there are 2 types of muslims isis terrorists muslims and those who won't blow them self up etc but they support them'' So i think that those ''who support'' doesn't really support them but ''don't mind them'' but i think its case of being afraid.
Muslims are afraid to speak against ISIS, as it might mean they speak against allah which will result in them being killed too as those who are against allah can be killed, hands and feets chopped off etc etc [from quoran as it says ]

So i just think its being afraid of speaking what they want to speak.
No that i defend muslims as its not really religion of peace or not near close as its easy to misinterpret this book resulting in killing, but i think they need some sort of help ? as when you born muslim you cant really change religion =result in death or something else neither you can stop being muslim as its also = result death or something else so they basically born and stuck in this religion even tho inside some of muslim people head is ''i dont really wanna be muslim'' but they cant change this because they are scared.

I think UK gov as well as other countries should make some points/website for such muslim seeking for help and also ik it wont pass anywhere in 2017 and i might sound psycho but for those who would kill such person who swapped from religion or stop believing in allah or made terrorist attack in name of religion [islam] they just wanna die and they happy about it because they are brainwashed they will get easy pass so maybe police should shoot them in legs or something and then give them life sentence but with heavy torture so they will feel the pain for all the families etc, so instead they dying they will be tortured for rest of their lifes + we could get rid of some psychos from our community to do their job. It might sound cruel but i also thought about it and then they will start to just blow them self up all time so they die together while killing which wont really pass.


Another idea was for example in uk, its hard to get Gun. Ok not so hard to make bomb somehow or get knife etc.
So i was thinking of making a system in UK, for example every person in UK even if they not British citizen, everysingle person who is in UK should have some special ''card'', and every shop who sells for example knife or any weapon or something that makes bomb idk not an expert but im guessing some explosives, some explosive powders and flamable liquids too, will have a system that scans such card and in few seconds it checks all the information about the background of the person and tells the seller whether he can sell the item to person or not, if not shows red and the person tried to buy it, then it will send automatically quickly report to police who and where and what he tried to buy, so police could quickly arrive into shop check him and everything or maybe his house too and phone everything in order to create better safe country.
I think it would be good idea seems really hard but i dont think it would be that hard if GOV focused on it well they have a lot of people and eveyrhting that im guessing it would take about few months to make it come to work with a good effort. Of course it won't stop terrorists attack as they can find some other way but im sure it will make their life much more harder to make another terrorist attack

But yeah what do you think guys ?
See... the thing is.... actual muslims don't blow themselves up and kill people.

That's the simple answer.

The people that do are about as muslim as a ham sandwich. (Ie: Not at all.)

The easiest way to understand it is that these people are just nutballs who are using whatever they can in order to justify their behaviour and satisfy their greed for money and power.

What can we do about it? That's a tougher question. Realistically you are 100 times more likely to be killed by a cheeseburger than you are a terrorist.

But a good start would be to go and and vote tomorrow.
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See... the thing is.... actual muslims don't blow themselves up and kill people.
Extremists draw their beliefs from plausible interpretations of religious scripture. What you've said is factually wrong.
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See... the thing is.... actual muslims don't blow themselves up and kill people.

That's the simple answer.

The people that do are about as muslim as a ham sandwich. (Ie: Not at all.)

The easiest way to understand it is that these people are just nutballs who are using whatever they can in order to justify their behaviour and satisfy their greed for money and power.

What can we do about it? That's a tougher question. Realistically you are 100 times more likely to be killed by a cheeseburger than you are a terrorist.

But a good start would be to go and and vote tomorrow.
They're nutballs made nuts because of repression, one of the most harmful pressures. This repression is from Islam.

EDIT: Here are some stats that might interest you:


Pew Research (2013):

  • Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
  • Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
  • 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.


http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/

Wenzel Strategies (2012):

  • 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
  • 45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
  • 12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
  • 43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
  • 32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.


http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/201...-of-expression

ICM Poll:

  • 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
  • 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...law-in-UK.html

Pew Research (2010):

  • 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
  • 70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
  • 42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
  • 82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
  • 56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers


http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

WZB Berlin Social Science Center:

  • 65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/40...fundamentalism

Pew Global (2006)

  • 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
  • 43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
  • 38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
  • 15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.


http://cnsnews.com/node/53865

World Public Opinion (2009)

  • 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
  • 32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
  • 41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
  • 38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
  • 62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
  • 42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)


http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

NOP Research:

  • 62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
  • 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&da te=2011-04-06

People Press Surveys

  • 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.


http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/...fter-iraq-war/

Belgian HLN:

  • 16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".


http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml

ICM Poll:

  • 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.


http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp

Pew Research (2007):

  • 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
  • 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
  • 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
  • 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
  • 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).


http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

Al-Jazeera (2006)

  • 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden


http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

Populus Poll (2006):

  • 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
  • 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".


http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

GfK NOP:

  • 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state


http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research:

  • 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&da te=2011-04-06

MacDonald Laurier Institute:

  • 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
  • 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda


http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01...riah-in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-...ion-in-canada/

al-Arabiya:

  • 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure


http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/20...10/166274.html

Gallup:

  • 38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially"Image


http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/p...like-us-really

Policy Exchange:

  • 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust
  • Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.


http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SU...20Download.pdf
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Sharia...eLawForAll.pdf
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Those who blow themselves up tend to be rather pathetic excuses for men who are not likely to have much success with women. So the offer of 72 virgins in paradise has quite an allure for them.

Of course, this is a mistranslation. They are really going to Barnstaple. And it's not 72 virgins, it's 72 rice cakes. But they won't find that out until they get there.
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Those who blow themselves up tend to be rather pathetic excuses for men who are not likely to have much success with women. So the offer of 72 virgins in paradise has quite an allure for them.

Of course, this is a mistranslation. They are really going to Barnstaple. And it's not 72 virgins, it's 72 rice cakes. But they won't find that out until they get there.
Maybe they're getting 72 virgins, but the virgins are actually just neckbeard /pol/ users.
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So after reading this , makes sense. https://discover-the-truth.com/2014/...hem-explained/
BUT its easy to miss interpret which i think most them radicals do, and if you see most of them radicals have anger issues
Example is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0mpGGDLTXY
Im sure this guy knows some guys who plan terrorist attack and that he support sharia law and ISIS and maybe even it looks like he is terrorist him self, why dont Government and police care more about such guys ? just find him search his house his contacts everything about him from A-Z same with other such ''muslims'' who have anger issues and go word to word with book some book without taking anyones opinions such people like him should be send but or really watch/supervised 24/7 .
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(Original post by glad-he-ate-her)

Oxford professor of islamic studies
I like him - his interpretations are pretty revolutionary.
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i guess it is kinda fashionable ? at one time all the chaps in this country wore a codpiece... not any more. hopefully this unpleasant behavior will soon be relegated to the lumber room of history.
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The Quran as is the Bible is text, written by a script after the fact. It can be interpreted in many ways, there will always be those that associate with the peace and generous to others part (which is the true intended message) my opinion. And there will be those that use religion as a reason to murder others.In history, the catholic church has been wrong. Muslims feel they have to right this wrong.Where does it stop, I am not catholic or Muslim but I have faith there is a creator. No way would GOD want us to be killing each other over an interpretation.What it really is, is revenge upon revenge. No more than a gang war. That is the truth. Anyone who reads this I urge you to add your comments
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