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Original post by Jack22031994
No need to be rude esp to a TSR Staff member :colonhash:


I ain't scared of no staff member son.
Original post by Newbie_noob
I ain't scared of no staff member son.


Didnt say you were and dont call me son
Original post by Jack22031994
Didnt say you were and dont call me son


ok hunny. :colonhash:
Reply 23
Original post by Kallisto
It was just a realization in my surrounding, I didn't say that male aspies have it more difficult to become in a relationship.

There are even aspies both male and female who married and even started a family. It is rather that aspies are autistics who have the best chances to have girl or boyfriends.


Are you an aspie?
Original post by miltank75
It's an extremely rare condition.


It's not. Unless we're back in the 1950s again? It affects at least 1 in 100 people. That isn't rare.
Reply 25
Original post by Tiger Rag
It's not. Unless we're back in the 1950s again? It affects at least 1 in 100 people. That isn't rare.


Well when I go to the street, definitely much less than 1 in a 100 have it from my observations.
Original post by miltank75
Well when I go to the street, definitely much less than 1 in a 100 have it from my observations.


You can't see Autism. We're not talking people who are wheelchair users. It's a learning disability. It's not obvious in the majority of people.
Reply 27
Original post by Tiger Rag
You can't see Autism. We're not talking people who are wheelchair users. It's a learning disability. It's not obvious in the majority of people.


I know that. But the people who I interact with on the train station, in shops, behind the bar, people who I meet in pubs. They don't seem to have the characteristics. They can communicate with me and understand social cues...
Original post by miltank75
I know that. But the people who I interact with on the train station, in shops, behind the bar, people who I meet in pubs. They don't seem to have the characteristics. They can communicate with me and understand social cues...


They're probably faking their confidence, etc. Or are you so medically trained and have access to their medical records? Both of which are extremely unlikely.

Do you even know what Autism is? Considering it's a spectrum...
Reply 29
Original post by Tiger Rag
They're probably faking their confidence, etc. Or are you so medically trained and have access to their medical records? Both of which are extremely unlikely.

Do you even know what Autism is? Considering it's a spectrum...


Why would they fake their confidence. Also not everyone with social anxiety is autistic.

Yes I know and one of my mates has it.

Explain to me why the all the other people I meet don't have symptoms of it. And I've met 100s maybe in the 1000.
Original post by miltank75
Why would they fake their confidence. Also not everyone with social anxiety is autistic.

Yes I know and one of my mates has it.

Explain to me why the all the other people I meet don't have symptoms of it. And I've met 100s maybe in the 1000.


How do you know they don't have the symptoms of it? again, are you medically trained to know this? I, depending on you to talk to, do or don't have the symptoms of it. But I've learnt to fake most things. (which isn't the best thing to do, but anyway)

Most people fake it because it's so much easier than having to sit there explaining why they're having a bloody panic attack whilst in a group full of people.
Reply 31
Original post by Tiger Rag
How do you know they don't have the symptoms of it? again, are you medically trained to know this? I, depending on you to talk to, do or don't have the symptoms of it. But I've learnt to fake most things. (which isn't the best thing to do, but anyway)

Most people fake it because it's so much easier than having to sit there explaining why they're having a bloody panic attack whilst in a group full of people.


Well people with it are socially awkward, monotonic, don't understand the jokes I crack etc. They also don't like the small talk which I do.

Well what do you fake? And what do you even mean by fake? Like why would you feel the need to panic in a group full of people? How would you manage being in central London?
I'm a female aspie and I learn my social interaction skills etc from observation on how the neurotypical do it throughout my life and I can pull it off in front of people/in a social situation as not 'autistic-like' (and I'm tentative using this expression because autism really doesn't have a look or a definite set of characteristics). Many female autistics go under the radar in both everyday life and when getting a diagnosis because they are indeed more aware how neurotypical interactions are like and learn from experience more readily. This might give them a slight advantage in interacting with their partner in a relationship but every aspie has their struggles in different aspects just the same no matter the gender. The condition is as diverse as it is and can be as subtle or not as it varies greatly between individuals on the spectrum. Dr Tony Attwood (a psychology professor who is widely known for his research and knowledge in Aspergers Syndrome)'s YouTube channel 'Different Together' explores the theme of aspies in relationships and I find it the most accurate and informative. You can check it out.
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by Tiger Rag
How do you know they don't have the symptoms of it? again, are you medically trained to know this? I, depending on you to talk to, do or don't have the symptoms of it. But I've learnt to fake most things. (which isn't the best thing to do, but anyway)

Most people fake it because it's so much easier than having to sit there explaining why they're having a bloody panic attack whilst in a group full of people.


This
My son is an aspie. He's been in a relationship for three years. It's hard. His gf has infinite patience and tries to understand the challenge!
It's all about finding the right person
Aspies are not idiots. Just wired differently
Reply 34
Original post by Anonymous
This
My son is an aspie. He's been in a relationship for three years. It's hard. His gf has infinite patience and tries to understand the challenge!
It's all about finding the right person
Aspies are not idiots. Just wired differently


Did you know he was an aspie since he was young?

And wait, why are there so many on this forum? I thought it's extremely rare.
(I refer to ‘autism’ a lot here because Aspergers Syndrome is now part of the Autism Spectrum Disorder diagnosis. Also, sorry this is so long!)
It's kind of impossible to know how common/rare Aspergers Syndrome is because not everyone gets diagnosed until later in their life, if at all. Since a large majority of the 'symptoms' are social, some people are able to hide them through mimicry and learning the skills that most people are born with. 'Faking' being neurotypical can be necessary a lot of the time, because often your ‘Autistic Response’ to something is the behaviour people call weird and avoid you for.

For example, if I went to a job interview I would have to fake being neurotypical, because eye contact is very important in trying to get a job, but ordinarily, I can’t maintain eye contact without feeling very uncomfortable. At work, I make eye contact with customers because I could lose my job if I don’t seem approachable, but it causes me emotional and physical discomfort, as well as tiring me out. Another example would be stimming, which is considered socially unacceptable. I stim as a sensory regulation method in front of friends and family, but if we have guests or I am around people who are likely to judge me I have to internalise whatever panic/anger/stress I’m feeling and suffer with it until they leave, rather than rub soft textures on my face to soothe it and ground me. In public or with people they don’t necessarily feel safe around, many Aspies don’t show obvious traits at all.


In my experience (as a female Aspie) I appear 'more autistic' in certain situations, such as when I am very tired or have just left a noisy environment, but in everyday life nobody really notices - I've had people flat-out disbelieve me before because I "don't look autistic." The thing with the autistic spectrum is that it isn’t a 0-100% scale, but more like a colour wheel, with different people experiencing different levels of each trait. So, I don’t really speak with much of a monotone and I understand similes, metaphors and sarcasm (potentially because I was an obsessive reader as a child); I still struggle a lot with sensory issues and have issues judging what is and isn’t appropriate to say sometimes though.

Something to consider is that the people you meet behind bars and in train stations may not be autistic because many autistic people find those environments too difficult to work/be in. I find travelling incredibly stressful, and until maybe a year and a half ago (before I built up coping strategies) I would literally cry in shops speaking to cashiers, to the point where I would rarely go out and buy things. Even now, I avoid going out into public places unless it’s necessary.

Social cues are like any other language - you can learn it with enough practice. And even if that doesn’t work, it’s often easier to just parrot what you know is acceptable to protect yourself.

In answer to your actual question, I’m aromantic asexual so I’m not pursuing a relationship, although I’m fairly certain I’ve never been considered attractive. That could definitely be to do with my personality and reputation, as well as my willingness to not hide my Aspie-ness from people (because it’s nothing to be ashamed of, and it helps you find real friends if you be yourself up front). Don’t know how relationships are for Aspie guys, though, since I don’t really know any personally.

(Also, I know the question about central London wasn't adressed to me, but I absolutely hate London (especially rush hour Tubes omg). I've only been a couple of times but I cope by wearing ear defenders to dull down noise, paying particular attention to my sensory needs (so constantly adding/taking off layers to keep my temperature comfortable, wearing lip balm because I can't stand the feeling of my lips being dry, that kind of thing), eating and drinking a lot so I don't get tired and my sugar levels don't drop and taking frequent breaks in the quietest coffee shops I find - because if I'm not feeling my best then that's when I have shutdowns and meltdowns and panic attacks. If this didn't make much sense, Googling 'Spoon Theory' might help, it's a fairly decent description of living with conditions such as autism and chronic illnesses).
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by miltank75
Did you know he was an aspie since he was young?

And wait, why are there so many on this forum? I thought it's extremely rare.

He was formally diagnosed with ADHD at 5 and Aspergers at 10. I always knew there was something....
Reply 37
Original post by Anonymous
He was formally diagnosed with ADHD at 5 and Aspergers at 10. I always knew there was something....


How did you know there was something which lead to the diagnosis? What symptoms did he portray?
Original post by miltank75
How did you know there was something which lead to the diagnosis? What symptoms did he portray?


Not going into personal details here.
We didn't have a name just noticed differences from what is perceived as " normal "
Original post by imnotcatherine
(I refer to ‘autism’ a lot here because Aspergers Syndrome is now part of the Autism Spectrum Disorder diagnosis. Also, sorry this is so long!)
It's kind of impossible to know how common/rare Aspergers Syndrome is because not everyone gets diagnosed until later in their life, if at all. Since a large majority of the 'symptoms' are social, some people are able to hide them through mimicry and learning the skills that most people are born with. 'Faking' being neurotypical can be necessary a lot of the time, because often your ‘Autistic Response’ to something is the behaviour people call weird and avoid you for.

For example, if I went to a job interview I would have to fake being neurotypical, because eye contact is very important in trying to get a job, but ordinarily, I can’t maintain eye contact without feeling very uncomfortable. At work, I make eye contact with customers because I could lose my job if I don’t seem approachable, but it causes me emotional and physical discomfort, as well as tiring me out. Another example would be stimming, which is considered socially unacceptable. I stim as a sensory regulation method in front of friends and family, but if we have guests or I am around people who are likely to judge me I have to internalise whatever panic/anger/stress I’m feeling and suffer with it until they leave, rather than rub soft textures on my face to soothe it and ground me. In public or with people they don’t necessarily feel safe around, many Aspies don’t show obvious traits at all.


In my experience (as a female Aspie) I appear 'more autistic' in certain situations, such as when I am very tired or have just left a noisy environment, but in everyday life nobody really notices - I've had people flat-out disbelieve me before because I "don't look autistic." The thing with the autistic spectrum is that it isn’t a 0-100% scale, but more like a colour wheel, with different people experiencing different levels of each trait. So, I don’t really speak with much of a monotone and I understand similes, metaphors and sarcasm (potentially because I was an obsessive reader as a child); I still struggle a lot with sensory issues and have issues judging what is and isn’t appropriate to say sometimes though.

Something to consider is that the people you meet behind bars and in train stations may not be autistic because many autistic people find those environments too difficult to work/be in. I find travelling incredibly stressful, and until maybe a year and a half ago (before I built up coping strategies) I would literally cry in shops speaking to cashiers, to the point where I would rarely go out and buy things. Even now, I avoid going out into public places unless it’s necessary.

Social cues are like any other language - you can learn it with enough practice. And even if that doesn’t work, it’s often easier to just parrot what you know is acceptable to protect yourself.

In answer to your actual question, I’m aromantic asexual so I’m not pursuing a relationship, although I’m fairly certain I’ve never been considered attractive. That could definitely be to do with my personality and reputation, as well as my willingness to not hide my Aspie-ness from people (because it’s nothing to be ashamed of, and it helps you find real friends if you be yourself up front). Don’t know how relationships are for Aspie guys, though, since I don’t really know any personally.

(Also, I know the question about central London wasn't adressed to me, but I absolutely hate London (especially rush hour Tubes omg). I've only been a couple of times but I cope by wearing ear defenders to dull down noise, paying particular attention to my sensory needs (so constantly adding/taking off layers to keep my temperature comfortable, wearing lip balm because I can't stand the feeling of my lips being dry, that kind of thing), eating and drinking a lot so I don't get tired and my sugar levels don't drop and taking frequent breaks in the quietest coffee shops I find - because if I'm not feeling my best then that's when I have shutdowns and meltdowns and panic attacks. If this didn't make much sense, Googling 'Spoon Theory' might help, it's a fairly decent description of living with conditions such as autism and chronic illnesses).


Thank you so much for putting this together - it's spot on. :smile: Hope the thread starter finds this helpful.

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