Avram Grant must be sacked

How seriously you take the League Cup? Fancy being in the final to Utd and Benitez rotated beyond belief? Given we put out strong sides in the competition I'd expect progress. We're not Arsenal who blood their youngsters using the competition, which I'd personally like to see but to a lesser extent, and when you pay too much for your ticket, you expect decent results preferbly with style.

Trotting along nicely in the CL is an overstatement. If we had won every game in the group stages without conceding and scored against Olympiacos then I'd consider that as excellent. If we had Inter I'd think we'd be out. We can't realistically sack him before the end of the season because it will be detrimental to the team. I just think he won't deliver when most needed, and previous matches are suggesting it.

See the artcile I quoted and I'd like your view from a supporter from another team seemingly in crisis. Just like to make a comparison that's all.

I see your point, but is Avram that bad?

Okay, you probably deserve better - and have definetly had better - but he isnt awful. The critiscm aimed at him that he only got results when the team picked itself is unfair - much like the stick Macclaren got (But he was ****).

Whilst i think you need a new manager, i don't think you have to be in any hurry. At least wait to see what he produces at the end of the season - regardless of trophys and more about what he has shaped his side into.

I'd watch it, you could turn into a Real Madrid if your not careful haha... ****load of top class players, but as soon as you don't win a cup it's clearing your desk by 10am the next day.

And, jesus... 1am. ****. Work in 8 hours. Woohoo.

Oh, haven't you heard? Real Madrid are sacking managers even when they win now

Del Bosque. I'd be chuffed to have won the league AND the Champions League no matter how well we play. Managers are based on results, just like strikers are on the goals they score. So if a manager doesn't win anything then it goes against him. Think he'd be shoved along if he wins nothing this season. If it was someone with a decent CV I'd give two seasons of decent return. Not asking for league and/or Champions League every season but two seasons of no silverware is unacceptable.

The media should learn not to take note of what that idiot says. He said the same thing with Ranieri AND Mourinho. Why believe in him now?