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Original post by Oxford Mum
It may mean a pub called Wetherspoons (called spoons for short) which serves cheap and cheerful food

https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/oxfordshire/the-four-candles-oxford


It does! Sometimes during Freshers week spoons give out booklets with coupons and offers for students, it's definitely a great place for food if you're hungry at an odd time, College bars are great for drinks but often don't serve food and may close a bit early / not be open everyday, so spoons can be a popular alternative!
The two Oxford pubs that are really popular with students are

The Turf Tavern (which all the family loves)

https://www.greeneking.co.uk/pubs/oxfordshire/turf-tavern

and the Kings Arms

https://www.kingsarmsoxford.co.uk/

Both of these are a stone's throw from the Sheldonian (where people get their degrees) and Blackwells book shop
Reply 7982
Weatherspoons is to a pub as McDonalds is to a restaurant!
So students love them, parents avoid them !
(edited 8 months ago)
I'm sure that @RichE has a deeper knowledge base, but for the Worcesterites out there, our/our son's Jericho favorites (besides the College bar) were the Old Bookbinders and the Rickety Press.
Is anyone planning on going to Oxford Open Doors weekend, or has been before, and have any suggestions on itinerary etc.?

https://www.oxfordpreservation.org.uk/content/oxford-open-doors
Reply 7985
Original post by HazeGray
I'm sure that @RichE has a deeper knowledge base, but for the Worcesterites out there, our/our son's Jericho favorites (besides the College bar) were the Old Bookbinders and the Rickety Press.

Oxford is just about big enough that one person's local isn't another's. The KA and Turf were mentioned earlier - they're not terribly close to Worcester so I don't think favourites of the students here. There is a spoons on George Street which is close and cheap. The college bar is very popular with the students one year only to be less so a year or two later (without obvious reason). Also pub management changes from time to time and the character of a pub can change enormously as a consequence. Think in this end of town the Gardeners Arms on Plantation Road - veg only menu - deserves an honourable mention, but it's not particularly local unless you're a Worcester, St Anne's, Somerville or St Hugh's student.

As a student I was at Queen's, whose annexes were beyond The Plain, so the Angel and Greyhound, Cape of Good Hope, and other east Oxford pubs were the fashion. Still rate the A&G in its current form.
(edited 8 months ago)
Are the college bars know to be on the more affordable side, compared to the town pubs?
Reply 7987
Hah - I knew I would find answers here! Thank you everybody for passing on the knowledge. I even got an impressed nod from the silent son for having found the answer.


@Euapp - a question you might know the answer to: do European kids also need a BRP card? I was just talking to a friend on the other side of the pond whose Daughter will be studying in London and who hadn't heard anything about the BRP card pick up, so I thought maybe that's just for Americans?
Original post by Euapp
Weatherspoons is to a pub as McDonalds is to a restaurant!
So students love them, parents avoid them !
(edited 8 months ago)
Original post by Elladan
@Euapp - a question you might know: do European kids also need a BRP card? I was just talking to a friend on the other side of the pond whose Daughter will be studying in London and who hadn't heard anything about the BRP card pick up, so I thought maybe that's just for Americans?

What’s a BRP card?
Reply 7989
Original post by USParent
What’s a BRP card?

It’s the Biometric Registration Permit card… The visa that got stuck in your son’s passport is just an entry permit, once arrived in the UK he will have to pick up the BRP, I believe.

(Another interesting hurdle for us, as a minor can’t pick up this card, but has to send in an application that a third party gets permission to pick it up (even if the third party is his parent and legal guardian). However, when he sent in the application they didn’t grant it because “We are unable to assist with the nomination for a Third Party collection (3Party collection) until the recipient of the BRP has arrived into the United Kingdom.

Please contact us again one week before the recipient arrives into the UK.” which seems slightly contradictory to us. *headscratch*

Anyway, I digress. TL;DR: BRP=Biometric Registration Permit
Original post by Elladan
It’s the Biometric Registration Permit card… The visa that got stuck in your son’s passport is just an entry permit, once arrived in the UK he will have to pick up the BRP, I believe.

(Another interesting hurdle for us, as a minor can’t pick up this card, but has to send in an application that a third party gets permission to pick it up (even if the third party is his parent and legal guardian). However, when he sent in the application they didn’t grant it because “We are unable to assist with the nomination for a Third Party collection (3Party collection) until the recipient of the BRP has arrived into the United Kingdom.

Please contact us again one week before the recipient arrives into the UK.” which seems slightly contradictory to us. *headscratch*

Anyway, I digress. TL;DR: BRP=Biometric Registration Permit


I see, yes, the dreaded biometric cards. Lots of complications for a minor student. Since we have no family in the UK, I’ll be traveling with my son to assist with some of the urgent items, such as buying bedding, sub fusc, tuxedo, etc.
Reply 7991
Original post by Elladan
Hah - I knew I would find answers here! Thank you everybody for passing on the knowledge. I even got an impressed nod from the silent son for having found the answer.


@Euapp - a question you might know the answer to: do European kids also need a BRP card? I was just talking to a friend on the other side of the pond whose Daughter will be studying in London and who hadn't heard anything about the BRP card pick up, so I thought maybe that's just for Americans?

No they don’t need one. Under the Brexit withdrawal agreement a current EU passport is sufficient.
Reply 7992
Original post by USParent
Are the college bars know to be on the more affordable side, compared to the town pubs?


Generally, yes the college bars are cheaper, some more so than others. As a general rule, the bigger ( and wealthier) the college, the cheaper the bar as the college can afford to subsidise it. Apparently Christchurch, Magdalen and Worcester have particularly cheap bars. There is a move, though,to clamp down on this and introduce a minimum price.
(edited 7 months ago)
Hi any Hertford College parents on here? Can anyone tell me what male Students wear to Hertford Formals? Is it the same as sub fusc so black suit , white shirt , bow tie and gown ? Also is there a best time’ to drop off at start of term? Thank you!
Reply 7994
Original post by CrochetMum
Hi any Hertford College parents on here? Can anyone tell me what male Students wear to Hertford Formals? Is it the same as sub fusc so black suit , white shirt , bow tie and gown ? Also is there a best time’ to drop off at start of term? Thank you!

Hi, sub fusc is not generally worn to formals except where specified. A nice suit and tie is usually fine.

The college should shortly give you a time and day when you have to arrive by. Very often it's the Sunday starting week zero. I recommend you arrive early in the day i.e before 10am to avoid the crowds.
Original post by mathmomUSA
Hi @Crafty Mum,
May I ask if they provide with full/twin size bed at St Catz? Do you recommend any essential items for freshers (eg: pillow, duvet cover, mattress protector etc)
Also do they provide with extra storage for international students between the term?
My apologies to bombard you with so many questions, any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Hi @mathmomUSA, sorry for the delay in replying as I’m only just back after a slightly early 30th wedding anniversary trip to St Lucia.

Beds at St Catz are European single size, which basically means quite narrow. Daughter rolled over one night and knocked off all the things on her bedside table, as she wasn’t use to the vey narrow single. But fear not, as St Catz provide all the bedding including mattress protector. We had already got a mattress protector, which she does use and nearly forgets to remove it at the end of each term. The ‘scout’ (cleaner) will provide fresh white bed linen each week. Some students take a throw and cushions to make it more homely.
Daughter has a friend there who is an international student, and I’m sure they have extra storage facilities between terms. Some of the freshers rooms in old quad do have a floor to ceiling storage cupboard, door width, which is great to have. You just need to provide your own padlock for it. I’ll check with her on the extra storage for between terms, and report back….
In the meantime, just ask if you have any further questions.

This was her room in 1st year, which also had a sink. There are some en-suite rooms in old quad too, which tend to be given to internationals. Daughter was lucky enough to be allocated one in the room ballot at the end of Trinity term, as her 3rd year room for this new academic year. It faces east, but as the blinds aren’t great at providing proper privacy, she’s looking at putting up some sort of curtain. It will have to be very lightweight, if we can get a long enough telescopic rod. Failing that, there’s always paper and sticky tape!! :biggrin:
IMG_8457.jpeg IMG_8458.jpeg We provided the fan (her room faced west, so very sunny in the afternoon), and inflatable sofa/bed. She also took a clothes rail as the small wardrobe was half height and items hung from front to back, instead of left to right. There isn’t anywhere to eat own prepared/delivered food other than in your own room. The sofa was great, especially if you have mates round, otherwise it’s the floor, bed, armchair or desk chair.. One of the nearby staircases had a table and chairs, which they used for occasional socialising. Also, very few old quad staircases have a freezer (none in new quad for 2nd years).
Daughter has a white board, which she fixes to the wall using ‘command’ strips as they can easily be removed without damaging the walls at the end of each term, and ‘command’ hooks for her fairy lights.
Original post by Crafty Mum
Hi @mathmomUSA, sorry for the delay in replying as I’m only just back after a slightly early 30th wedding anniversary trip to St Lucia.

Beds at St Catz are European single size, which basically means quite narrow. Daughter rolled over one night and knocked off all the things on her bedside table, as she wasn’t use to the vey narrow single. But fear not, as St Catz provide all the bedding including mattress protector. We had already got a mattress protector, which she does use and nearly forgets to remove it at the end of each term. The ‘scout’ (cleaner) will provide fresh white bed linen each week. Some students take a throw and cushions to make it more homely.
Daughter has a friend there who is an international student, and I’m sure they have extra storage facilities between terms. Some of the freshers rooms in old quad do have a floor to ceiling storage cupboard, door width, which is great to have. You just need to provide your own padlock for it. I’ll check with her on the extra storage for between terms, and report back….
In the meantime, just ask if you have any further questions.

This was her room in 1st year, which also had a sink. There are some en-suite rooms in old quad too, which tend to be given to internationals. Daughter was lucky enough to be allocated one in the room ballot at the end of Trinity term, as her 3rd year room for this new academic year. It faces east, but as the blinds aren’t great at providing proper privacy, she’s looking at putting up some sort of curtain. It will have to be very lightweight, if we can get a long enough telescopic rod. Failing that, there’s always paper and sticky tape!! :biggrin:
IMG_8457.jpeg IMG_8458.jpeg We provided the fan (her room faced west, so very sunny in the afternoon), and inflatable sofa/bed. She also took a clothes rail as the small wardrobe was half height and items hung from front to back, instead of left to right. There isn’t anywhere to eat own prepared/delivered food other than in your own room. The sofa was great, especially if you have mates round, otherwise it’s the floor, bed, armchair or desk chair.. One of the nearby staircases had a table and chairs, which they used for occasional socialising. Also, very few old quad staircases have a freezer (none in new quad for 2nd years).
Daughter has a white board, which she fixes to the wall using ‘command’ strips as they can easily be removed without damaging the walls at the end of each term, and ‘command’ hooks for her fairy lights.


Cannot get over St Catz doing their bed linen for them!This is a great description of everything one needs to know about rooms at St Catz Crafty!
Original post by Anonymous
Cannot get over St Catz doing their bed linen for them!This is a great description of everything one needs to know about rooms at St Catz Crafty!

From Scotney Xx.
Wadham to quote the Alternative Prospectus 'don't have formal hall ever.'Privately the other reason son chose it!They do have special guest dinners twice a term where people tend to be more dressed up but no gowns are involved.This was a great disappointment for me but suited boy to a tee!
Original post by USParent
Are the college bars know to be on the more affordable side, compared to the town pubs?


Yes they are. A pint of cider at St Catz was £1.92 last term. Daughter said prices in college bars are now more similar to each other, and definitely more affordable than town pubs and bars.
Original post by Scotney
From Scotney Xx.
Wadham to quote the Alternative Prospectus 'don't have formal hall ever.'Privately the other reason son chose it!They do have special guest dinners twice a term where people tend to be more dressed up but no gowns are involved.This was a great disappointment for me but suited boy to a tee!

St Catz have a welcome dinner for freshers, where college ‘parents’ (2nd years) pay for and dine with their college ‘children’ shortly after they all start. They do have a guest night in February too where people dress smartly, but don’t think they have many formals where gowns are actually worn, which pleased my girl. Freshers had a meal before matriculation in 2021, so in full sub fusc for that of course.

Don’t worry Scotney, daughter will have laundry practice in 4th year! St Catz do spoil them until then, when she won’t be in college accommodation.

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