This is my username if you were scared about me being anonymous.
I understand that many of your trolls would be Oxbridge rejects, however I am not one. I was not interested in these 2, and I got my top choice (imperial) and am loving my degree.
The only reason I targeted this thread to share my thoughts is because I simply had not seen another one on here or any other platform. As you say it’s the most popular.
I just fear for some of the parents here who are rather obsessive with their children’s endeavours. They are living through their children’s lives. The time of waiting for results should not be anxious for any parent, just a time of anticipation where you should be proud of the effort your child has put in. The student has right to be anxious.
The students applying to university are not 8, they’re 17,18,19 and they don’t need to be spoon fed, just some guidance from someone with experience. They’re adults also and deserve some independence.
People are quick to call 'troll' about anyone with a diffrent view. Take it as a compliment!
I rejected my Oxford offer as I did not enjoy the behaviour of others during the time I spent there on interview - behaviour of the Oxford students not my fellow interviewees. That does not stop me giving up non-contacts to help with MAT and STEP prep. Indeed I'm anticipating students geting the right grades to get into both of these unis.
However, there are degrees where Oxbridge is not the right choice ...
This is my username if you were scared about me being anonymous.
I understand that many of your trolls would be Oxbridge rejects, however I am not one. I was not interested in these 2, and I got my top choice (imperial) and am loving my degree.
The only reason I targeted this thread to share my thoughts is because I simply had not seen another one on here or any other platform. As you say it’s the most popular.
I just fear for some of the parents here who are rather obsessive with their children’s endeavours. They are living through their children’s lives. The time of waiting for results should not be anxious for any parent, just a time of anticipation where you should be proud of the effort your child has put in. The student has right to be anxious.
The students applying to university are not 8, they’re 17,18,19 and they don’t need to be spoon fed, just some guidance from someone with experience. They’re adults also and deserve some independence.
First of all, I am very happy you have received an offer from imperial and I hope you enjoy it.
Yes the students do need guidance, but they will get it from the student reps, pastoral care students chaplains and many more. What do the parents get? Nothing- except if they come on here.
Rather than obsessive I would say the parents are proud of their children and rightly so. However, having attended Manchester university myself ( never even applied to Oxford) I realised when I got there that there are so many traditions, rules and regulations and indeed a whole different vocabulary to learn ( have you ever heard of battels, for instance?)
Once there, as my elder son’s rector says we have to leave them to make their own mistakes and that is what we will all do. Note most of those asking the questions are new parents who do not know what to expect.
The vast majority of these posts are to give advice ( advice I wish I had before my son went up) which apply to parents such as where to park ( nightmare) and where to buy sub fusc ( easy but worrying if you are trying to buy it from, say, France or the USA).
I am sure you will agree this thread is harmless and practical as well as a great way to make friends with others in the same position. Just seeing those two sets of American parents talking to each other about visas warms my heart.
I am not a parent, but I am a tutor, and I find some of these claims bizarre at best and there's a lot of straw-man argument here. I agree there are some parents vicariously living through their children and other helicopter-style parents, but there's lots of posters on this thread that don't fit that bill.
But it seems extremely odd to me if a parent weren't anxious about their child's results - they'd have to be completely lacking in empathy and have no idea what their child's going through. And yes the students entering HE are 17-19, but that's not to say they don't need support from some people (it doesn't have to be parents), that they wouldn't welcome it and don't have huge amounts yet to learn about what it's like to enter and prosper in HE. That doesn't imply spoonfeeding them.
I agree here - I can remember when gove made a levels harder and although my son was an offer holder he was convinced his chemistry a level was a disaster. Luckily he scraped in. Other a level students who applied for medicine missed their grades but were still allowed into their medical schools. Not sure if Oxford would have been so forgiving. It was a very anxious time.
An Irony here is that the post KLBinSE was agreeing with and Scotney PRSOM-ed has been moderated out of existence, for reasons that are never fed back.
I guess the post will be deleted if it has upset some of us or causes offence.
Hey @Elladan So glad to see another math mom from USA. My son will be joining St Catz this fall. How about your son, hope they get to meet each other at some point. Btw, We just received his Visa issued and it was rather quick in regards to overall processing time even though we got that dreaded email saying his application's not straightforward. After his biometric done, he got his visa issued exactly in a week's time. Hopefully everything will be sorted out for you as well.
Thanks for sharing about the fb group as I haven't heard of this before, will surely look into that.
Hi @mathmomUSA, Glad to hear your son’s Visa has arrived. It’s quite an eye opener hearing about all the things which you overseas people have to go through before heading to Oxford. I’m a fellow St Catz parent, daughter is going into 3rd year and is really happy there. If you have any St Catz questions, ask away and I’ll try and help answer them. One of daughter’s friends is also reading maths.
Hey @Elladan So glad to see another math mom from USA. My son will be joining St Catz this fall. How about your son, hope they get to meet each other at some point. Btw, We just received his Visa issued and it was rather quick in regards to overall processing time even though we got that dreaded email saying his application's not straightforward. After his biometric done, he got his visa issued exactly in a week's time. Hopefully everything will be sorted out for you as well.
Thanks for sharing about the fb group as I haven't heard of this before, will surely look into that.
Hallelujah - great to hear you got the visa, we are stressing out here a bit. May I ask: were you notified per sms when it was issued?
My son is keen on connecting with yours, he was very excited to hear about another American in his course - I am sending you a private message.
The maths building is amazing - look out for all the maths related aspects. Probably most famous is the Penrose paving.
Oh, @Muttley79, thanks a lot for those pictures! I showed them to the kiddo and they made him very happy! Background: we toured a few colleges here in the US and it was noticeable how often the maths departments were in some ugly, brutalist concrete building, tucked away somewhere on the outskirts of the campus. We often times laughed if that was a reflection of the status that math had at the given university (which all had great math programs). I don't think my kid can be any more thrilled about starting in at Oxford, but if he could he would be now.
Oh, @Muttley79, thanks a lot for those pictures! I showed them to the kiddo and they made him very happy! Background: we toured a few colleges here in the US and it was noticeable how often the maths departments were in some ugly, brutalist concrete building, tucked away somewhere on the outskirts of the campus. We often times laughed if that was a reflection of the status that math had at the given university (which all had great math programs). I don't think my kid can be any more thrilled about starting in at Oxford, but if he could he would be now.
It is only a few years old - 2013. There is a cafe so if you are coming over you'll be able to go inside and explore the ground floor
I was fortunate to get a tour - hence the picture from the roof - my other pictures have students in so I can't post those ..
Sadly Dr Vicky Neale died recently at the age of 39 but there are some of her lectures on youtube:
Oh, @Muttley79, thanks a lot for those pictures! I showed them to the kiddo and they made him very happy! Background: we toured a few colleges here in the US and it was noticeable how often the maths departments were in some ugly, brutalist concrete building, tucked away somewhere on the outskirts of the campus. We often times laughed if that was a reflection of the status that math had at the given university (which all had great math programs). I don't think my kid can be any more thrilled about starting in at Oxford, but if he could he would be now.
The Oxford maths department used to be such a brutalist concrete desert - it's now the stats department, but in fairness to them they've renovated the interior rather nicely. But for almost a decade now maths has been in a lovely, airy building. I'm glad he's so excited to be starting soon - All the indicators suggest he'll have a great time of it!
This is my username if you were scared about me being anonymous.
I understand that many of your trolls would be Oxbridge rejects, however I am not one. I was not interested in these 2, and I got my top choice (imperial) and am loving my degree.
The only reason I targeted this thread to share my thoughts is because I simply had not seen another one on here or any other platform. As you say it’s the most popular.
I just fear for some of the parents here who are rather obsessive with their children’s endeavours. They are living through their children’s lives. The time of waiting for results should not be anxious for any parent, just a time of anticipation where you should be proud of the effort your child has put in. The student has right to be anxious.
The students applying to university are not 8, they’re 17,18,19 and they don’t need to be spoon fed, just some guidance from someone with experience. They’re adults also and deserve some independence.
Im a parent of Oxbridge applicant that got rejected and not been to university myself. The eldest she goes to Lancaster and there is no parents thread there . Theres not enough to get a following, although there is a huge one for Lancaster parents on another social media site. And its very much the same as Oxfords here. What college? what accommodation, parking in the city centre, where to go for a bite to eat if you got the dogs.There was a conversation solely about what mattress toppers today. I think any forum its really nice for the parents of university students get together in this format, but I dont think we live through our childrens lives. Im pretty sure a lot of us have jobs/hobbies other interests as well There is going to be a bit of anxiety of course. Anxiety that you hope your young adult has done well and got their top choice uni, Anxiety that when they fly the nest that they will not get homesick, or that they make friends and live the best life they can be. Thats not helicopter parenting or over obsessing, its just a natural process. I have not really seen anything in the way of restricting their loved one of independence on here.
I just fear for some of the parents here who are rather obsessive with their children’s endeavours. They are living through their children’s lives. The time of waiting for results should not be anxious for any parent, just a time of anticipation where you should be proud of the effort your child has put in. The student has right to be anxious.
The students applying to university are not 8, they’re 17,18,19 and they don’t need to be spoon fed, just some guidance from someone with experience. They’re adults also and deserve some independence.
What actually do you deem parents 'being obsessed with their children's endeavors'? The fact that somebody is anxious if their kids will be able to attend their top choice university based on the results coming in? You determine that equals they 'are living through their children's lives'? So - if a parent keeps their fingers crossed that their grown up son will pass his masters exam - they are living his live? If a parent fervently hopes the tornado will not hit on their daughters wedding day - they are living her live? If a parent is anxious about their child's marriage falling apart - living their live?
What I am trying to say is - that's parenthood. You kind of want their dreams to come true and their worries not to. Of course some parents over do it, just as some under do it. That's for every family to figure out for themselves. But to categorically state 'this is how life should be and how people should behave!' Hm. Based on what rule, written where?
Of course you can have any opinion you want on what you read. But... you don't only voice your opinion, you immediately jump to conclusions - that ALL parents on this thread are so overbearing and that ALL parents have no place on this forum. You state your subjective opinions as if they were facts and you draw very harsh conclusions from them. (Denying peoples' rights to participate in this forum, i.e.) I question your conclusions.
What actually do you deem parents 'being obsessed with their children's endeavors'? The fact that somebody is anxious if their kids will be able to attend their top choice university based on the results coming in? You determine that equals they 'are living through their children's lives'? So - if a parent keeps their fingers crossed that their grown up son will pass his masters exam - they are living his live? If a parent fervently hopes the tornado will not hit on their daughters wedding day - they are living her live? If a parent is anxious about their child's marriage falling apart - living their live?
What I am trying to say is - that's parenthood. You kind of want their dreams to come true and their worries not to. Of course some parents over do it, just as some under do it. That's for every family to figure out for themselves. But to categorically state 'this is how life should be and how people should behave!' Hm. Based on what rule, written where?
Of course you can have any opinion you want on what you read. But... you don't only voice your opinion, you immediately jump to conclusions - that ALL parents on this thread are so overbearing and that ALL parents have no place on this forum. You state your subjective opinions as if they were facts and you draw very harsh conclusions from them. (Denying peoples' rights to participate in this forum, i.e.) I question your conclusions.
PRSOM. Not only that, but questions are often posted here, especially from International parents because we want to know the answers to questions before our offspring ask us. It’s a way of avoiding stress and pressure not adding to it.
Hallelujah - great to hear you got the visa, we are stressing out here a bit. May I ask: were you notified per sms when it was issued?
My son is keen on connecting with yours, he was very excited to hear about another American in his course - I am sending you a private message.
We have notified by email that our visa has been processed and dispatched by courier( no word on whether its approved/rejected) so it's a nail biting moment for us too, finally it came out yesterday. Hopefully you would get yours as well in coming days, it just a matter of time and I am sure it would turn out well for you! yes, my son would love to connect with yours and will reply to your PM now.
Hallelujah - great to hear you got the visa, we are stressing out here a bit. May I ask: were you notified per sms when it was issued?
I asked my son about his visa, and he says he received his more than a week ago. He was sent something in the mail, and also an email. His passport was kept during the biometric appointment, and was returned to him already via the mail.
Hi @mathmomUSA, Glad to hear your son’s Visa has arrived. It’s quite an eye opener hearing about all the things which you overseas people have to go through before heading to Oxford. I’m a fellow St Catz parent, daughter is going into 3rd year and is really happy there. If you have any St Catz questions, ask away and I’ll try and help answer them. One of daughter’s friends is also reading maths.
Hi @Crafty Mum, So happy to connect with a fellow parent here. Will surely reach out to you in the coming days If I need to be aware of anything! Thanks a lot for your help.
This is my username if you were scared about me being anonymous.
I understand that many of your trolls would be Oxbridge rejects, however I am not one. I was not interested in these 2, and I got my top choice (imperial) and am loving my degree.
The only reason I targeted this thread to share my thoughts is because I simply had not seen another one on here or any other platform. As you say it’s the most popular.
I just fear for some of the parents here who are rather obsessive with their children’s endeavours. They are living through their children’s lives. The time of waiting for results should not be anxious for any parent, just a time of anticipation where you should be proud of the effort your child has put in. The student has right to be anxious.
The students applying to university are not 8, they’re 17,18,19 and they don’t need to be spoon fed, just some guidance from someone with experience. They’re adults also and deserve some independence.
No offence but this is nonsense. Parents are criticised if they are not actively involved in their children’s lives but also criticised if they are too involved.
Unfortunately Imperial is not close to the rigorous process that is present in Oxbridge admissions and the subsequent academic journey. I know this by talking to students who were Cambridge undergrads and postgrads at Imperial/UCL and they claimed that things were more intense at Cambridge.
It is best to live and let live. Having a thread for parents to engage with one another and share tips should not be mocked in that way. In a world where young people are experiencing increasingly more difficult lives, they need imho more support where possible whether they are 8, 17 or 22.
No offence but this is nonsense. Parents are criticised if they are not actively involved in their children’s lives but also criticised if they are too involved.
Unfortunately Imperial is not close to the rigorous process that is present in Oxbridge admissions and the subsequent academic journey. I know this by talking to students who were Cambridge undergrads and postgrads at Imperial/UCL and they claimed that things were more intense at Cambridge.
It is best to live and let live. Having a thread for parents to engage with one another and share tips should not be mocked in that way. In a world where young people are experiencing increasingly more difficult lives, they need imho more support where possible whether they are 8, 17 or 22.
Good luck at Imperial.
I’d believe you’re wrong in your ‘rigorous process‘ claim. At least for many courses with entrance exams, they’re much the same and have larger applicants:admissions ratio, they can be just as competitive. Anyway this wasn’t about this and I’m not trying to compete, you can see I wasn’t talking about this in my original comment, so not sure why you brought it up.