"Getting Fit Over The Summer" Thread

Just me being a pedant, but... why is 'bicep' being used to describe the upper arm? A bicep that was 13 inches in circumference would actually be pretty huge, but an upper arm not so much.

that annoys me slightly as well. Especially since bicep should make up ~1/3 of the arm size irc

Just me being a pedant, but... why is 'bicep' being used to describe the upper arm? A bicep that was 13 inches in circumference would actually be pretty huge, but an upper arm not so much.

Because when you measure the upper arm generally its the bicep you flex. If you flex the tricep then the measurement is smaller, yet still of the upper arm. This saves confusion.

You could go from 12 to 13" arms on a diet of biscuits and pies, the point is in the long term a vegan diet is not what we evolved to eat, do you disagree with that?

ANd stop preaching about being vegan and how great it is if you have to eat fish to cover your bases. You are admitting your own diet is deficient, yet advising it...

More pedantry I'm afraid - you don't flex the biceps or triceps, you flex and extend the elbow. The elbow flexes when the biceps contract and extends when the triceps contract. Joints flex and extend, muscles contract and relax.

So you're ignoring my challenge? Say I have 11" bicep muscle, or 12" including the fat. Wha you think I could gain on a vegan diet in 3mths pumping?

To get technical, I take B12, also I trying to get a better Omega3/6 balance. And if I eat omega 3's walnuts and flaxseed my body should convert into all the essentially fatty acids including DHA & EPA found in oily fish.

I probably will continue to eat the fish though to cover all the bases. The world still turns whether I do or not.

No one is disputing whether the world turns or not. You can also eat what you like, but please stop calling yourself either vegetarian or vegan when you eat milk chocolate and fish.

you stupid moo i went back to vegan since 5 days ago, yes I know milk chocolate isn't vegan that's a problem for me. The mod have already prosided over this issue in my favour.

also you could be supported of me instread of seeming being one of the bodybuilding/weight-lifting trolls.

Just came back from a Bodypump session - weights set to music effectively. Has anybody else tried it? What do you think? I like it because I would never push for that many reps or weight if somebody wasn't there shouting. It's also good in showing you the technique of free weights etc.

Just wanted some advice on diet though:

Breakfast - porridge with a little semi-skimmed milk and banana. Cup of tea with dash of milk and a spoonful of sugar

Snack - cereal bar

Lunch - one or two sandwiches: brown, wholegrain bread with a 'healthy' slice of cheese, some salad, a couple of tomatoes and an apple

Snack - cup of tea with dash of milk and spoonful of sugar and another cereal bar

Dinner - wholegrain pasta with homemade bolognaise / prawns with tomato sauce and rice / a little quiche and salad etc etc

Sound ok?

Please have a look and offer opinions, really need some as get no help from family/friends. Week or two of seeing what training is good and i've come up with.

Diet:
Breakfast: Cereal (Special K most probably)
Lunch: Spinch salad with red/green peppers and ham/tuna.
Dinner: Cooked chicken breast with veg and onions
Snacks: Fruit
Plenty of water. 2 pints in the morning and evening at minimum.

Probably need to shore the diet up (and variety) but once in a steady pattern can add variety.

Gym:
Cardio - 5 miles every day (2/3 on those that I am working purely time restricted). This will be on treadmill to start with before moving on to rowing machine alone or combined.

Weights -
Arms/Shoulder - Monday/Thursday
Legs - Tuesday/Friday
Abs/Pecs - Wednsday/Saturday

Sunday complete rest day.

Any good training methods or techniques will be apprecited, but i'll see what I can do in the gym and then build it up.

On top of this, 50 bicep curls, 50 situps and 20 pressups every night.

I've slowly been building up to september and i'm going to hit it hard for a month (and then see where I can improve/reduce etc). I've contemplated giving up (on the other thread) but it's my life and I need to get myself into order. Any help you can give would be appreciated (especially on the diet) but please don't quote ... need 1,500 cals or whatever as I can't get my head around this. Meals or diet plans would be great.

no, you can't read, i wasn't saying how great, rather it was you saying you need eggs, etc. Wrong!!!!!!!! Just correcting you that you don't actually need them.

you're being petulant now talking about biscuits, and back tracking from your erroneous post now that I'm facing off with you about it.

erm, i never looked at the evolution theory of diet, although I know it's an argument put forward by WestPrice Foundation to support meat eating. Yes, I did read stuff about fish might been an evolutionary part of the diet and I've read about the Paleo diet, but I can't judge about it from that biological evolution angle. In any case I don't think it's a thing to worry about and vegans don't worry what we ate 1000's of years ago.