Should Wales be independent?

hopefully independence #letthemgo

I mean, yes, I second this!

I think something similar to what Scotland have announced. The timing's a bit odd because the date to legally renew lockdown is today but no public announcement will come until tomorrow.

If it's notably stricter than the new rules in Scotland then I think the WG will have to explain why their management of the situation so far has been worse than Scotland's, given Scotland is being equally cautious about lifting lockdown.

Why do Wales and Scotland want to be independent? Do they want to become even more irrelevant on the world stage?

Are the other smaller nations of Europe 'irrelevant on the world stage' in your view? If so, why is 'relevance on the world stage' important? Most smaller countries aren't exactly pushing to join a bigger country to boost their relevance, they prioritise controlling more of their own affairs.

Why do Wales and Scotland want to be independent? Do they want to become even more irrelevant on the world stage?

Britain used to have the biggest empire the world had ever seen in the early 1920s. I wonder how low we can go one hundred years later with the Union being broken after more than 300 years.

Are going to argue in favour of the British Empire as was in the 1920s?

Wales needs to the UK to maintain its spending. It contributes £19 billion to the UK every year but receives £27 billion. That's a difference of £8 billion a year. Do you think independence will make up for that?

Because the UK never runs a budget deficit, of course...

The Welsh deficit figures can be spun any which way you like because of the way certain taxes are collected. For example, Tesco has a number of supermarkets in Wales, but the corporation tax paid by Tesco is counted as paid in England, because the HQ is in England. Under independence, they and every other business that trades cross-border would be paying Welsh corporation tax on the business they do in Wales.

What does Wales have that other countries want?

Wales needs to the UK to maintain its spending. It contributes £19 billion to the UK every year but receives £27 billion. That's a difference of £8 billion a year. Do you think independence will make up for that?

Yes, by powers to raise debt and to have it's own central bank.

Because the UK never runs a budget deficit, of course...

The Welsh deficit figures can be spun any which way you like because of the way certain taxes are collected. For example, Tesco has a number of supermarkets in Wales, but the corporation tax paid by Tesco is counted as paid in England, because the HQ is in England. Under independence, they and every other business that trades cross-border would be paying Welsh corporation tax on the business they do in Wales.

Yes, by powers to raise debt and to have it's own central bank.

Yes, by powers to raise debt and to have it's own central bank.

hopefully independence #letthemgo

No, and they don’t want it either.

Devolution to Scotland and Wales was a huge mistake by the Labour Party and the worst PM of the last 50 years