It's official. Medicine applicants rose by 21% this year compared to last.

themagics1992

What about F1/F2 positions abroad? Should I do the MBBS Malta I have the options in future to do F1/F2 posts in Malta or UK. do you know if theres any other countries that do this then?

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TSR George

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Original post by themagics1992

What about F1/F2 positions abroad? Should I do the MBBS Malta I have the options in future to do F1/F2 posts in Malta or UK. do you know if theres any other countries that do this then?

For now, this is fairly limited because to apply for Core Training / Specialty Training at the post-FY2 level, you'd need an FY2 competency certificate. As far as I am aware, the Foundation Programme is only UK and Malta.

You can potentially work a year or two overseas, but there'll be an added problem of getting the training time recognised by the GMC.

Post originally created by ecolier.

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Hudl

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This is all very interesting!

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GANFYD

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Original post by themagics1992

Now without being silly in medical schools do you ever get asked would you consider a career as a GP/Emergency medicine or any other speciality that is lacking staff because I know some medical students or A level students do have a rough idea of what type of medicine they'd like to specialise in after medical school (me included - anesthesia) whether they change their mind during studies.

I remember such youtube video mock interview and the applicant had said he'd like to study in this area and the interviewer responded 'Would you consider another speciality?

If you said you had your heart on GP career would medical schools like this even more as they know full well the country is short of GPs and does it offer any advantage atall even if it's minimal %?

Med schools are told to aim for 50% of their graduates going into Primary Care, so more Drs should equal more GPs.
It would be of no benefit to mention any specific specialty at interview, other than as a means of discussing your interest and commitment to medicine

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aspimd

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I have a question: once we finish medical school, can we go work anywhere? or do we need to finish FY1/FY2 to officially be a dr and be able to work in other countries?

edit: i'd like to work for something like "medicine sains frontieres"

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TSR George

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Original post by aspimd

I have a question: once we finish medical school, can we go work anywhere?

Depends on the country really.

Most people will do FY1 because you only have 3 years after med school graduation to do it, otherwise you'll forever not be able to obtain a "licence to practise" in the UK.

or do we need to finish FY1/FY2 to officially be a dr and be able to work in other countries?

After you completed FY1, you are no longer "provisionally registered" with the GMC, but have "full registration".

Nevertheless, most people will still complete FY2 before leaving or doing a gap year. The reason behind that is - if / when you come back, you can go straight into specialty / core training if you so wanted.

edit: i'd like to work for something like "medicine sains frontieres"

Excellent!

Post originally created by ecolier.

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nexttime

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Original post by aspimd

I have a question: once we finish medical school, can we go work anywhere? or do we need to finish FY1/FY2 to officially be a dr and be able to work in other countries?

edit: i'd like to work for something like "medicine sains frontieres"

Whilst working in a less developed country as a volunteer is not hard - its literally free labour for them - bear in mind MSF specifically is very organised and has specific requirements including language requirements. They're generally after specific medical skill sets too. You'd have to have a lot more experience than just med school, or even FYs probably!

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stereotypeasian

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Guess this will increase next year as well

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TheMedicOwl

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I spent six months as an MSF interpreter. Preference is always given to doctors who speak relevant languages (most of their employees are actually local professionals rather than internationals), but sometimes this isn't feasible and they use interpreters. They're strict on specialty requirements. At the clinic where I was based they only wanted gynaecologists who had completed ST5 or equivalent, for example. This is because facilities are often basic, and as the working situation can be volatile, they need appropriately experienced people who are used to working with lots of autonomy. A junior doctor wouldn't be in that position. If you're interested in humanitarian medicine, I recommend you look into the specialties they most commonly recruit from and try your best to learn a relevant language (French, Spanish, or Arabic would all be good) if you don't speak one already.

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Jones11111

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Approx 28500 people applied for medicine for 2021 entry Does this include all undergrads home,graduates and international students?
How many spaces are there approx for the home undergrad students and how many home undergrad students applied for medicine for the 2021 entry?

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TSR George

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Original post by Jones11111

Approx 28500 people applied for medicine for 2021 entry Does this include all undergrads home,graduates and international students?

Yes. Read through this thread, I think it's been discussed before

How many spaces are there approx for the home undergrad students and how many home undergrad students applied for medicine for the 2021 entry?

Places: around 9500 in total, not broken down further though.

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3358

Read the first post of this thread for your second question.

Post originally created by ecolier.

(edited 3 years ago)

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nexttime

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The US saw a similar rise, being dubbed the 'Fauci effect' as they attribute it to increased exposure for medicine.

https://www.ama-assn.org/residents-students/preparing-medical-school/applications-medical-school-big-it-fauci-effect

Shall we start calling it the 'Vallance effect'? 'Hancock effect' maybe? :tongue:

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TSR George

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Original post by nexttime

The US saw a similar rise, being dubbed the 'Fauci effect' as they attribute it to increased exposure for medicine.

https://www.ama-assn.org/residents-students/preparing-medical-school/applications-medical-school-big-it-fauci-effect

Shall we start calling it the 'Vallance effect'? 'Hancock effect' maybe? :tongue:

Same for nursing too: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56111379

Post originally created by ecolier.

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RFH1207

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Original post by nexttime

The US saw a similar rise, being dubbed the 'Fauci effect' as they attribute it to increased exposure for medicine.

https://www.ama-assn.org/residents-students/preparing-medical-school/applications-medical-school-big-it-fauci-effect

Shall we start calling it the 'Vallance effect'? 'Hancock effect' maybe? :tongue:

“Van-Tam effect”, surely?

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username5130988

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this is not a gd time to be a med student :frown:

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tipexmaster25

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Original post by wolfieboi_

this is not a gd time to be a med student :frown:

But its an even bigger flex if you get in amirite

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username5130988

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Original post by tipexmaster25

But its an even bigger flex if you get in amirite

i got in last year when they let evrybody in, just dont wanna get kicked out or smthing.

gl 2 u tho.

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tipexmaster25

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Original post by wolfieboi_

i got in last year when they let evrybody in, just dont wanna get kicked out or smthing.

gl 2 u tho.

Nah im sure they can't do that once you're in. I have no facts to back that up, but it sounds dodgy & I've never heard of it happening so hopefully its not something they can do.
And cheers, hope all's going well for ya

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Mesopotamian…

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Original post by wolfieboi_

this is not a gd time to be a med student :frown:

If you think it’s bad for medical students, try being a dental student: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6929438

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Steve8888

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@ecolier @GANFYD @TCL

Hi all In the best scientific tradition of pro activity, I decided to gather as much diagnosis information as I could to understand the indigestion that resulting from the 2 years of CAG AAA debacle and medical places and FY1 And FY2.

In particular seeking confirmation from the Minister of state for universities of how the pressure on foundation year one and foundation year to training posts would be managed by the government. Anyway to cut a long story short after chasing up my Tory MP almost on a monthly basis for five months I have finally received a reply from the minister of State for universities. Don’t get too excited!

Anyway can the gurus on here translate this political gobbledygook/ claptrap and explain if it tells us anything that we don’t already know or it’s just blah blah blah terrority :work:

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It's official. Medicine applicants rose by 21% this year compared to last.

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