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Could people be banned from flying any European national flags in Britain?

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Flying the European flag is a political statement, but not one that would normally cause serious civil unrest. Neither would flying an Italian flag in a pizza restaurant BUT what has caused problems in countries such as France, Portugal, Italy and Spain is the flying of flags of North African Nations in certain cities where second and third generations of immigrants are proclaiming the importance of their origins over and above their appartenance to their welcoming Nation.It is a real source of social instability.
Original post by Louis IX
The terms most people in NI use are "unionists" (people who want NI to remain part of the UK) and "nationalists" (people who want NI and Southern Ireland to become one country). Both unionists and nationalists use these terms. Taking issue with commonly used terms in order to show that you're more of a Shinner than anyone else is pretty scummy - and I say that as someone who finds both sides abhorrent.


It's not 'scummy' at all it's simple logic. You can call them that, although there are at least many nationalists who would rather be called republicans.
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Original post by Rakas21
Private individuals should be permitted to fly whichever flags they wish

I agree with that.
Then I was about to crack a crap joke along the lines of should British Germans be allowed to fly a Swastika then?
Then I realised I don't know if it is it illegal to fly a Swastika.
Apart from expecting all your windows to be put through, would they be breaking any law?
Original post by Just my opinion
I agree with that.
Then I was about to crack a crap joke along the lines of should British Germans be allowed to fly a Swastika then?
Then I realised I don't know if it is it illegal to fly a Swastika.
Apart from expecting all your windows to be put through, would they be breaking any law?

Illegal on many EU states but not in the UK albeit the police would have you for another offense to deal with it.
What....section 5, conduct likely or such like?
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Original post by Rakas21
Objectively speaking Ireland was a part of the UK and not the other way around, thus there was nothing wrong in keeping a part of our nation while the south was torn from us.

Torn or given up on
Original post by Rakas21
Why do you dislike both sides?

It's not that I dislike both sides - it's that many loyalists would hate me because I'm a Catholic and many nationalists would hate me because I'm a social conservative.

My take on the issue is that NI is British but plenty of people who think that it is also hate me, so it's not hard to see why I don't identify as a unionist.
Original post by Louis IX
It's not that I dislike both sides - it's that many loyalists would hate me because I'm a Catholic and many nationalists would hate me because I'm a social conservative.

My take on the issue is that NI is British but plenty of people who think that it is also hate me, so it's not hard to see why I don't identify as a unionist.

I know the feeling.
Except that I'm an english lazy catholic whose mobile ringtones are The Sash & Penny Arcade, with revolutionary socialist parents who have supported militant republican nationalists since their student days and my first bf's family have strong ties to the orange order & loyalist paramilitaries. :rofl:

I visit northern ireland several times a year and am registered to vote there & in england.
Last general election, my choice was between voting for the PM or the DUP.
I did consider voting DUP and holding my nose.
But in the end went for the PM to keep Corbyn out of No10 and get brexit done.
I'm now too furious at the wets to consider lending Boris my vote again, so next election my options are either vote DUP or stay home sulking.
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Original post by londonmyst
I know the feeling.
Except that I'm an english lazy catholic whose mobile ringtones are The Sash & Penny Arcade, with revolutionary socialist parents who have supported militant republican nationalists since their student days and my first bf's family have strong ties to the orange order & loyalist paramilitaries. :rofl:

I visit northern ireland several times a year and am registered to vote there & in england.
Last general election, my choice was between voting for the PM or the DUP.
I did consider voting DUP and holding my nose.
But in the end went for the PM to keep Corbyn out of No10 and get brexit done.
I'm now too furious at the wets to consider lending Boris my vote again, so next election my options are either vote DUP or stay home sulking.

You were one of the 5,433 voters? An elite club....
Original post by londonmyst
I know the feeling.
Except that I'm an english lazy catholic whose mobile ringtones are The Sash & Penny Arcade, with revolutionary socialist parents who have supported militant republican nationalists since their student days and my first bf's family have strong ties to the orange order & loyalist paramilitaries. :rofl:

And your grandma's family are tradcaths.

Your life seems very ecumenical.
Original post by Louis IX
And your grandma's family are tradcaths.

Your life seems very ecumenical.

I used to be viewed as a poster child for interfaith events. :cry2:
My best friend is a follower of the liberal shia islamic sect led by the aga khan.
Religious close friends are a very diverse bunch.
Fundamentalist christians, high church anglicans, pentecostals, jw's, conservative mormons, rastra supporting hindus, ahmadiyya islam and conservative sikhs.
Original post by londonmyst
I used to be viewed as a poster child for interfaith events. :cry2:
My best friend is a follower of the liberal shia islamic sect led by the aga khan.
Religious close friends are a very diverse bunch.
Fundamentalist christians, high church anglicans, pentecostals, jw's, conservative mormons, rastra supporting hindus, ahmadiyya islam and conservative sikhs.

It's funny you say that given that some of my closest friends are pretty diverse - one's a non-denominational Protestant and I have quite a few Muslim friends who you could probably call fundamentalists.

Not sure they'd get on too well with your Ahmadi friend though. :tongue:
Original post by Louis IX
It's funny you say that given that some of my closest friends are pretty diverse - one's a non-denominational Protestant and I have quite a few Muslim friends who you could probably call fundamentalists.

Not sure they'd get on too well with your Ahmadi friend though. :tongue:

I used to have some fundamentalist friends who were followers of islam, sunnis and shias.
Almost all of them died of covid this year. :frown:
They never fought with any members of the ahmadiyya community or did any backbiting targeted at them.
Nor the reformists, liberals and barely practicing members of their own religious denominations.
Seemed to get on fine with the fundamentalist followers of all other abrahamic religions and sikhism.
Original post by londonmyst
They never fought with any members of the ahmadiyya community or did any backbiting targeted at them.

Funny you say that.

My friends - who are all pretty orthodox Sunnis - absolutely hate Ahmadis and Shias. It's not as if they're an extremist fringe, either, they're just pretty normal Muslims.
Original post by Louis IX
Funny you say that.

My friends - who are all pretty orthodox Sunnis - absolutely hate Ahmadis and Shias. It's not as if they're an extremist fringe, either, they're just pretty normal Muslims.

Do they have similar sentiments about the Ibadis and Quranists?

The ugly faces of tribalism, snobbery, sectarian and toxic family traditions rearing their heads. :sigh:
Have you heard any criticism or insults connected to the caste system?
I've heard this quite often with friends from India, Kashmir, Mauritius, Nepal and Sri Lanka.

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