The common denominator here is you. It's your responsibility.
I would actually be ok with that
you sound ignorant again, i tried to improve it but i cant, like i said some people genuinely cant help how they write no matter how many times they try, you clearly do not understand because you havent experienced that issue
you sound ignorant again, i tried to improve it but i cant, like i said some people genuinely cant help how they write no matter how many times they try, you clearly do not understand because you havent experienced that issue
Au contraire, I had terrible writing and when I was about 15 I did worksheets where I had to write out each letter hundreds of times then worked on joining them. My writing is still not awesome but I made a hell of an improvement. It's simply laziness to not work on it and expect people to make allowances for something that is entirely within the person's control.
Au contraire, I had terrible writing and when I was about 15 I did worksheets where I had to write out each letter hundreds of times then worked on joining them. My writing is still not awesome but I made a hell of an improvement. It's simply laziness to not work on it and expect people to make allowances for something that is entirely within the person's control.
ok good for you do you want a medal or something? just because YOU have made an improvement dont expect other people to go through the same experiences as you. its not laziness i wish i had neat handwriting but i just cant no matter what i always fall back to my original state.
ok good for you do you want a medal or something? just because YOU have made an improvement dont expect other people to go through the same experiences as you. its not laziness i wish i had neat handwriting but i just cant no matter what i always fall back to my original state.
Ok so first I'm ignorant because I don't know what these lazy people go through, now I'm showing off by saying how I have my own experience.
This would probably make things harder for a lot of students who aren't touch typists and wouldn't necessarily be better for those with fine motor disabilities, depending on the nature of their disability.
Also since people tend to develop typing abilities through usage this ends up disadvantaging those without computer access at home, who tend to also be in less privileged socioeconomic groups. So it might even widen the gap between some groups of students...
The theoretically ideal solution would be to provide scribes for all students but that would obviously be impossible though.
The theoretically ideal solution would be to provide scribes for all students but that would obviously be impossible though.
People unused to having a scribe (e.g. getting one because they've just broken their arm) find them a real encumbrance as they aren't used to dictating their thoughts and struggle to structure decent sentences. Trying to dictate Maths is even worse and often they have to scrawl illegibly whilst talking in order to get their thoughts to flow as normal.
You start learning to write at 5 years old, give or take a year. If after 13 years of practice at age 17/18 it's still not legible, either you have been extremely undisciplined or you have fine motor skill problems. In either of these cases the problem should have been addressed before year 13.If it's the latter then typing in exams should be allowed.
Pretty sure when I was at school not being able to competently write was basically seen the same as not being able to read. Unless you have a genuine disability then 'not being able to write legibly' simply wasn't an option and you would eventually be disciplined. Hell, the generation before me would have their hands belted for it.
As for stuff like hands hurting/fatigue?.. This is largely down to practice and taking responsibility. If you had a big sports day coming up you'd be expected to practice and stretch, why should an exam be different?
Pretty sure when I was at school not being able to competently write was basically seen the same as not being able to read. Unless you have a genuine disability then 'not being able to write legibly' simply wasn't an option and you would eventually be disciplined. Hell, the generation before me would have their hands belted for it.
As for stuff like hands hurting/fatigue?.. This is largely down to practice and taking responsibility. If you had a big sports day c
You start learning to write at 5 years old, give or take a year. If after 13 years of practice at age 17/18 it's still not legible, either you have been extremely undisciplined or you have fine motor skill problems. In either of these cases the problem should have been addressed before year 13.If it's the latter then typing in exams should be allowed.
Lol, it's really not that deep. My handwriting is legible 99% of the time. When you're writing essays upon essays under time pressure, one can start to become sloppy/rushed when trying to put ideas onto paper.
Ignorant from having had direct personal experience?
Sorry for not believing everyone should make allowances for me because I'm too lazy to work on a changeable aspect of myself.
ok like i said great that you have changed your handwriting but dont expect other people to undergo the same experiences then call them lazy for not doing so
ok like i said great that you have changed your handwriting but dont expect other people to undergo the same experiences then call them lazy for not doing so
People unused to having a scribe (e.g. getting one because they've just broken their arm) find them a real encumbrance as they aren't used to dictating their thoughts and struggle to structure decent sentences. Trying to dictate Maths is even worse and often they have to scrawl illegibly whilst talking in order to get their thoughts to flow as normal.
That's a fair point also - I can imagine trying to dictate any maths beyond arithmetic could be a pain, especially if the scribe isn't familiar with the maths in question!
the way some of you assume that people should have neat handwriting without a disability is strange
There is a pretty wide gap between "neat" and "legible". The latter I think is a pretty reasonable assumption and quite within most people's grasp. I agree that "neat" handwriting is both unnecessary and takes far more time to develop (or to use) than is practical for most people, but one doesn't need to reach that for to have handwriting that is legible.
That said I think a lot of this is based on the assumption of the OP that their handwriting is or will be illegible to examiners, which I think is probably unlikely - a significant part of their job is reading students' handwriting for things written under pressure of time, so I imagine most are reasonably good at it. Also, I think exam boards have special teams of examiners who specialise in reading hard to read/illegible scripts (I think @Reality Check mentioned this as a thing at some point?).
some people just cant change the way they write, theres this boy in my class he has no disability but his handwriting is terrible even though he tries to improve it, it doesnt work thus he uses a computer. sometimes it just doesnt work for everyone, for instance i tried to improve my handwriting in primary but it didnt work