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hello i want to do biomedicine in university however i don't do a level biology or chemistry but i do applied sciences extended certificate do i have a chance to get into it ?
Original post by sanaig
hello i want to do biomedicine in university however i don't do a level biology or chemistry but i do applied sciences extended certificate do i have a chance to get into it ?

When you say, "applied sciences extended certificate" do you mean AQA Level 3 Extended Certificate in Applied Science (specification here) or do you mean Pearson BTEC Level 3 National Extended Certificate in Applied Science (specification here)?

Each of the above is worth the equivalent of one A level. Are you taking any other qualifications right now?

What sort of grade(s) are you likely to get? Do you have particular target universities (of types of target universities) in mind?
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Original post by DataVenia
When you say, "applied sciences extended certificate" do you mean AQA Level 3 Extended Certificate in Applied Science (specification here) or do you mean Pearson BTEC Level 3 National Extended Certificate in Applied Science (specification here)?

Each of the above is worth the equivalent of one A level. Are you taking any other qualifications right now?

What sort of grade(s) are you likely to get? Do you have particular target universities (of types of target universities) in mind?

hello thanks for your reply, i am doing the pearson btec applied science alongside pearson btec health and social and ocr religious studies
the universities that i have in mind are University of birmingham ( i am currently doing the inspired@birminham which is a pathway programme to get into UoB), Worcester Uni, Warwick uni (currently enrolled in their summer school) , Aston university and finally Manchester metropolitan uni
for my applied science i am predicted a : D*, health and social : D and Religious studies : B
Original post by sanaig
hello thanks for your reply, i am doing the pearson btec applied science alongside pearson btec health and social and ocr religious studies
the universities that i have in mind are University of birmingham ( i am currently doing the inspired@birminham which is a pathway programme to get into UoB), Worcester Uni, Warwick uni (currently enrolled in their summer school) , Aston university and finally Manchester metropolitan uni
for my applied science i am predicted a : D*, health and social : D and Religious studies : B

University of Birmingham say here that for Biomedical Science, "BTEC Level 3 National Extended Certificate (or Diploma) can be considered in conjunction with the 2 science A levels." So two BTEC Extended Certificates and a single A level won't meet their requirements for that course. :frown: The same page also says that, "Students who are eligible and successfully complete a Pathways to Birmingham programme will receive special consideration from admissions tutors and an alternative offer (typically two grades below the standard offer)". That "special consideration" might provide the flexibility you need, but I suspect not given that their A level requirements are "Two science A levels from Biology, Chemistry, Mathematics, or Physics". So they'd need to (a) accept two BTEC Extended Certificates and one A level, and (b) consider both "Applied Science" and "Health and Social Care" to be a suitable substitute for a science A level. That seems unlikely to me, although you'd need to contact the Biomedical Science admissions team ([email protected]) to find out.

University of Worcester say here that for Biomedical Science they have two sets of entry requirements:
"96 UCAS Tariff points MUST include A Level Biology, Human Biology or Chemistry and A Level in another science, Maths or Statistics."
"104 UCAS Tariff points MUST include A Level Biology, Human Biology or Chemistry."
The fact that they've put "MUST" in all caps doesn't bode well. However, they do say "Other qualifications, such as BTEC in Applied Science or equivalent, and Access to Higher Education (with at least 15 credits of Biological Sciences gained), will also be considered." When they refer to BTEC in Applied Science, they're probably talking about the Extended Diploma (worth three A levels), however. The bottom of that page lists contact details for the general admissions office, the course leader and an admissions tutor - one of whom should be able to clarify things.

University of Warwick say here that for Biomedical Science, "We are happy to consider applicants who are studying BTECs alongside A Level Biology. We are also happy to consider applicants who have taken the BTEC Level 3 National Extended Diploma in Applied Science on an individual basis." As you don't have A Level Biology, and as your Applied Science BTEC is an Extended Certificate (worth 1 A level) not an Extended Diploma (worth 3 A levels), that would seem to be out.

Aston University say here that for Biomedical Science, with respect to a BTEC National Extended Certificate, "With this BTEC you must also achieve grades BB in two A Levels of which one must be Biology."

Manchester Metropolitan University say here that for Biomedical Science, "Other Level 3 qualifications equivalent to GCE A level are also considered." :smile: So, based upon the information each university has published on their web site, Manchester Met looks like you best option out of these five. I suggest you ask them. This page includes the phone number for the Course Enquiries Team, and a web form you can fill out if you'd prefer.
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Original post by DataVenia
University of Birmingham say here that for Biomedical Science, "BTEC Level 3 National Extended Certificate (or Diploma) can be considered in conjunction with the 2 science A levels." So two BTEC Extended Certificates and a single A level won't meet their requirements for that course. :frown: The same page also says that, "Students who are eligible and successfully complete a Pathways to Birmingham programme will receive special consideration from admissions tutors and an alternative offer (typically two grades below the standard offer)". That "special consideration" might provide the flexibility you need, but I suspect not given that their A level requirements are "Two science A levels from Biology, Chemistry, Mathematics, or Physics". So they'd need to (a) accept two BTEC Extended Certificates and one A level, and (b) consider both "Applied Science" and "Health and Social Care" to be a suitable substitute for a science A level. That seems unlikely to me, although you'd need to contact the Biomedical Science admissions team ([email protected]) to find out.

University of Worcester say here that for Biomedical Science they have two sets of entry requirements:
"96 UCAS Tariff points MUST include A Level Biology, Human Biology or Chemistry and A Level in another science, Maths or Statistics."
"104 UCAS Tariff points MUST include A Level Biology, Human Biology or Chemistry."
The fact that they've put "MUST" in all caps doesn't bode well. However, they do say "Other qualifications, such as BTEC in Applied Science or equivalent, and Access to Higher Education (with at least 15 credits of Biological Sciences gained), will also be considered." When they refer to BTEC in Applied Science, they're probably talking about the Extended Diploma (worth three A levels), however. The bottom of that page lists contact details for the general admissions office, the course leader and an admissions tutor - one of whom should be able to clarify things.

University of Warwick say here that for Biomedical Science, "We are happy to consider applicants who are studying BTECs alongside A Level Biology. We are also happy to consider applicants who have taken the BTEC Level 3 National Extended Diploma in Applied Science on an individual basis." As you don't have A Level Biology, and as your Applied Science BTEC is an Extended Certificate (worth 1 A level) not an Extended Diploma (worth 3 A levels), that would seem to be out.

Aston University say here that for Biomedical Science, with respect to a BTEC National Extended Certificate, "With this BTEC you must also achieve grades BB in two A Levels of which one must be Biology."

Manchester Metropolitan University say here that for Biomedical Science, "Other Level 3 qualifications equivalent to GCE A level are also considered." :smile: So, based upon the information each university has published on their web site, Manchester Met looks like you best option out of these five. I suggest you ask them. This page includes the phone number for the Course Enquiries Team, and a web form you can fill out if you'd prefer.

Thank you so much for your help!! I always thought that just the extended certificate would be fine but i guess not. once again thank you so much for your effort i really appreciate it <3
Original post by sanaig
Thank you so much for your help!! I always thought that just the extended certificate would be fine but i guess not. once again thank you so much for your effort i really appreciate it <3

No problem. You've fallen into the same trap as many other students, and not looked a step ahead - to see whether the qualifications you've chosen will be accepted by wherever you want to go with those qualifications.

Can I suggest that you take the opportunity to look ahead now? You're looking to do a Biomedical Science degree. Where were you hoping that would take you? A job in a particular industry? Research in the same field? Have you checked job adverts and research opportunities to see what qualifications they're looking for? Is a Biomedical Science degree what they're looking for? Or are other degrees / qualifications equally as relevant?

If a Biomedical Science degree is the correct path, and if none of the universities you've mentioned would accept to combination of qualifications, then perhaps consider a course with a foundation year at one of these universities, or elsewhere. For example, University of Worcester suggest here that for their Biomedical Science with Foundation Year there are no specific A level / BTEC requirements.
Original post by sanaig
Thank you so much for your help!! I always thought that just the extended certificate would be fine but i guess not. once again thank you so much for your effort i really appreciate it <3

Note that you could also look into courses with a foundation year, as those are normally designed for students who didn't do the right subjects for the main course. Lots of universities offer these - for example Birmingham, Southampton, Manchester, and Leeds, among others.
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Original post by artful_lounger
Note that you could also look into courses with a foundation year, as those are normally designed for students who didn't do the right subjects for the main course. Lots of universities offer these - for example Birmingham, Southampton, Manchester, and Leeds, among others.


ahhh thank youuuuu !!! i didnt think about this option thank you so much for your reply <333
Reply 8
Original post by DataVenia
No problem. You've fallen into the same trap as many other students, and not looked a step ahead - to see whether the qualifications you've chosen will be accepted by wherever you want to go with those qualifications.

Can I suggest that you take the opportunity to look ahead now? You're looking to do a Biomedical Science degree. Where were you hoping that would take you? A job in a particular industry? Research in the same field? Have you checked job adverts and research opportunities to see what qualifications they're looking for? Is a Biomedical Science degree what they're looking for? Or are other degrees / qualifications equally as relevant?

If a Biomedical Science degree is the correct path, and if none of the universities you've mentioned would accept to combination of qualifications, then perhaps consider a course with a foundation year at one of these universities, or elsewhere. For example, University of Worcester suggest here that for their Biomedical Science with Foundation Year there are no specific A level / BTEC requirements.

yes i honestly probably started to 'looking ahead' in 6th form i never really planned ahead during the time when i was picking my qualifications however that's why i am trying my best now to start planning ahead now, for example i wanted to do a integrated master degree in biomed in UoB hopefully specialising in immunology. so i was thinking would it be possible to still do an integrated master course WITH the foundation year or do i have to do it separately ?
Original post by sanaig
yes i honestly probably started to 'looking ahead' in 6th form i never really planned ahead during the time when i was picking my qualifications however that's why i am trying my best now to start planning ahead now, for example i wanted to do a integrated master degree in biomed in UoB hopefully specialising in immunology. so i was thinking would it be possible to still do an integrated master course WITH the foundation year or do i have to do it separately ?

I'm not actually sure that University of Birmingham have a foundation year which would obviously lead into a Biomedical Science BSc. This appears to be a list of the foundation years they offer.
Original post by sanaig
yes i honestly probably started to 'looking ahead' in 6th form i never really planned ahead during the time when i was picking my qualifications however that's why i am trying my best now to start planning ahead now, for example i wanted to do a integrated master degree in biomed in UoB hopefully specialising in immunology. so i was thinking would it be possible to still do an integrated master course WITH the foundation year or do i have to do it separately ?


Not doing an extended diploma might present a problem as you havent taken a subject with enough Biology or Chemistry in it. I have just checked Swansea University for Genetics and they do look at other quallifications. Maybe others will do the same so in your circumstances you would best contact the university for their advice.

A-levels/Welsh Baccalaureate: CCD which must include Biology

IB: 24 to include Higher Level grade 4 Biology

BTEC: Typically DMM including a good Biology profile

As well as one of the above qualification types all applicants are required:

GCSE: English and Maths minimum Grade C Wales (England Pre-2017) or Grade 4 (England Post-2017)

We accept Swansea University approved equivalent qualifications.

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