I am so worried about AI

I know I have posted this before but I am so worried about AI. I heard that one in five jobs will be lost. I don’t want to become unemployed and just sit around all day. The government is not taking this threat seriously

Reply 1

Quady

20

Awright, ya dafty! So ye're pure feart o' losin' yer job, eh? Well, welcome tae the club, pal! The government no takin' the threat seriously? Mate, they dinnae tak' anythin' seriously! They're a bunch o' clowns in suits, sippin' their fancy whiskies, while the rest o' us are skint and strugglin' tae make ends meet!

But here's the thing, ye cannae sit on yer 'rse and expect the government tae sort it oot for ye. Ye need tae take charge o' yer ain future, knowwhitamean? Start lookin' for other opportunities, upskill yersel, and keep yer options open. It's a dog-eat-dog world oot there, so ye better ge' yer 'rse in gear and start sniffin' oot new job prospects.

And if ye dae end up unemployed, dinnae just sit aroon' like a lazy fannybaws. Use yer time wisely, gettin' stuck intae learnin' new skills, daein' some volunteer work, or even startin' yer ain business if ye've got the balls for it. Ye need tae keep yersel motivated and no let 'em grind ye doon.

So, quit yer moanin' and get aff yer erse! The world's a tough place, but ye've got the potential tae mak' somethin' o' yersel. Now, dinnae come greetin' tae me again, ya wee jobby!

Reply 2

hotpud

18

Don't worry. For every job lost, a new one will be created. Do you remember human computers, secretaries, dockers, lamp lighters, switchboard operators, projectionists?

All jobs that no longer exist due to technological improvements but we don't miss them. Nor are we worse off employment wise. When I came into the jobs market, there was no such things as an app developer, social media influencer, drop marketing, search engine optimiser etc etc. And that is in 20 years.

Reply 3

Quady

20

Original post by hotpud

Don't worry. For every job lost, a new one will be created. Do you remember human computers, secretaries, dockers, lamp lighters, switchboard operators, projectionists?

All jobs that no longer exist due to technological improvements but we don't miss them. Nor are we worse off employment wise. When I came into the jobs market, there was no such things as an app developer, social media influencer, drop marketing, search engine optimiser etc etc. And that is in 20 years.

This is the poster's at least eight different thread specifically on automation.

They ain't listening.

Hence I got GlasgowGPT to reply.

Reply 4

Napp

22

Luddites to the left and all that..

Seriously though, leaving aside true AI is many years away (machine learning being little more than the exceptionally simple and developmentally delayed little brother to it) the idea that 20% of jobs will vanish to it is absurd. Ignoring the fact of job creation from new opportunities the absolute guesswork that goes into such a claim should be an immediate cause for concern.

Hell, just in my role, nominally one 'at risk' things like chatgpt are making it increasingly easy to do the baseline aspects of it but are nowhere near the capabilities required to replace a person.

Reply 5

michaelhw

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Original post by TSR George

I know I have posted this before but I am so worried about AI. I heard that one in five jobs will be lost. I don’t want to become unemployed and just sit around all day. The government is not taking this threat seriously

read When the machine stops, by E.M. Forster :smile:

A few days ago I testet chatgtp for the first time:

My first experience with chatgtp and other AI tools

This week I was stunned by how good chatgtp was, and I thought most humanties scholars would be unemployed in few years. Chatgtp was able to tell me in a few minutes that W.R. Burnett served in the navy during the first world war, a fact i was unable to discover using google. I also got chatgtp to write a short, but rather flat story set in WWI.
I then discovered that the best use of AI was to destill information from search results. But this lead to a completely new problem. The AI services invent facts! They told me that the Nigerian man I helped publish a fantasy novel was "creative director" of a non-existant company (I googled) and that the novel we published had won a non-existant award (I googled that as well).

It then told me that Mansa Musa, the richest man in history and ruler of the medieval Mali empire, had met Ibn Batutta, which is not true. Ibn Batutta arrived in Mali later and met one of his successors. Upon rephrasing the questions, however, I was able to get more facts, which apparently contradicted what chatgtp had previously claimed. But it was very useful in finding new information - but this information must be checked.

It is also worth noticing that chatgtp conveys human edited information fed to it by a staff of hundreds. Whereas Google Bard, Perplexity and some others destill search results. And thus are continously updated.

I think that Chatgtp and Google Bard may replace the search engine because of their ease of use. But, it will then get into copyright problems in relation to its sources of information. If I were to publish a new article with some hypothetical archaeological discovery I allegedly made that information will be conveyed to the user without references. Also, if I invent things, publish them online, the same may happen.

It is therefore important to make sure that the integrity of the source material is preserved in the AI superstructure, and that the possibility of empirical checks is always there. We also need to be informed about the processes that the AI has applied. Is this an argument generated by the AI tool itself, or is the tool refering to the judgement of some unnamed source? Which source?

The Perplexity site does have a source check option, but I think in the future it will also crucial to separate AI-generated arguments from human made arguments. And that you with a mouse click are able check the process by which AI arrived at the sentence you see.

In a prose argumentive text this will be clear cut logic, but in fiction this will be mimicry based on "artistic profiles". In short, AI generated pieces should specify from which artistic profiles the engine has produced its mimircry. The entries used to produce the fiction and the underlying profiles should then be stored as open source data, and transfered to the plagiarist checkers online.

What I have described will to a certain extend protect modern writers from being profiled and exploited by huge publically available engines. But it will not prevent the creation and use of profiles of writers with expired copyrights, and - as we all know - most writers in history are in fact dead. Specialized and downloadble AI engines may operate on top of datasets such as the gutenberg library, and then of course it will be hard for any publisher to verify the authenticity of anything.

So at some point in the future, AI must become a part of the toolkit of every writer and academic. But at the moment (September 2023) the fiction generated is flat, and the profile situation unclear. In the future a lesser man or woman may arrive at Shakespeare, but they will not have been able to do so without the original. In addition, handling computers is perhaps an art in and of itself.

The mason who created a sculptural masterpiece in ancient times did so with a block of stone and a few tools. He was no less a genius than future artists, but AI may impose a technological superstructure not only on the production of art, but also on the artistic expression itself. However, simplicity is both perfect and timeless, and it will always be admired.

Reply 6

Quady

20

Original post by TSR George

I know I have posted this before but I am so worried about AI. I heard that one in five jobs will be lost. I don’t want to become unemployed and just sit around all day. The government is not taking this threat seriously

Hi George

When the account of the OP is deleted, how come you pick up fronting their mad thoughts?

Reply 7

Demons99

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AI is going to bring with it horrors than most people do not understand yet. It's not just about job loss.

Reply 8

hotpud

18

Original post by Demons99

AI is going to bring with it horrors than most people do not understand yet. It's not just about job loss.

Are you sure? The big story this morning is an AI recreation of Van Gough that has been installed at the Musée d’Orsay in Paris. Apparently they have fed it thousands of his hand written letters and now it speaks for the great master himself.

Apparently it has figured out what his favourite painting is even though his letters have not specified the answer and even the AI seems uncertain as it wavers between one painting and another. Sounds like gimmicky hackery to me.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/oct/02/ai-vincent-van-gogh-talks-of-mental-health-struggles-in-paris-exhibition

Reply 9

michaelhw

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Original post by TSR George

I know I have posted this before but I am so worried about AI. I heard that one in five jobs will be lost. I don’t want to become unemployed and just sit around all day. The government is not taking this threat seriously

I have started to use Ai for graphics generation. But in that process a lot of artists will be unemployed. Then the turn will come to those of us who write fiction and then to music. I even see AI porn has arrived. In the end, however, all our lives will improve when the politicians are also replaced by a pc.

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