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GCSE Maths qs, aargh, help please!!

Can someone explain how you would find the minumum point of the curve:

y=x squared - 8x + 23

:confused: as it's on a GCSE paper, don't tell me the calculus way, that will confuse me! Also how do you solve equations like:

3/x+3 - 4/x-3 = 5x/x squared - 9

its the A* GCSE stuff i would love to be able to know how to do by monday! :woo: please try and explain in simple forms, maths isn't my strong point :smile: thanks x
Reply 1
Well on the first point, im very suprised this is at GCSE level, as it is usually AS material- The only way I can think of doing it without using differentiation is graphically
secondly, you need to rearranged the seconded equation so that all the x's are on one side- also note that x^2-9=(x+3)(x-3), which will be the denominator of the other fraction after cross-multiplication
Reply 2
top one you can complete the square to find minimum and maximum points.
Reply 3
Hollijones
top one you can complete the square to find minimum and maximum points.


yeh i did that and got (x-4)^2 + 7, but then i got stuck after that :confused:
Reply 4
so your point is (4,7) you'd done all the hard work lol.
Reply 5
ahah clever, i just need 2 be able to do the other one now :P
Reply 6
i'd try and help but i dont really understand how you've written it. Sorry!
Reply 7
Draw it. or complete the square, to find the range!!
Reply 8
I love it when people can't do maths, and I can.
Makes me feel like a hero.
then I remember,
it's not that cool.


But basically, with a quadratic, you complete the square, if you know how to do that...
then if you have
(x-4)^2 + 7 = y
the minimum point would be 4,7.
because you make the brackets = 0.
so x = 4
and then if x=4, that means y=7

so there you have it.
You're very own minimum point of a curve :'D
Reply 9
Tilly87

3/x+3 - 4/x-3 = 5x/x squared - 9


Solution...img012.jpg
Reply 10
KingPin
Solution...img012.jpg

dude, correct me if I am wrong, but you forgot to multiply out the-4(x+3) bracket.

I got x=-3.5
Reply 11
Avacadro
dude, correct me if I am wrong, but you forgot to multiply out the-4(x+3) bracket.

I got x=-3.5


quite right that should be -12 at the end shouldnt it.
just worked it through and got -3.5 as well
Avacadro
dude, correct me if I am wrong, but you forgot to multiply out the-4(x+3) bracket.

I got x=-3.5


That is correct.

3x94x12x29=5xx29\displaystyle\frac{3x-9-4x-12}{x^2-9} = \displaystyle\frac{5x}{x^2-9}

Cancel the x2-9.
Reply 13
KingPin
Solution...img012.jpg



Should you have two solutions?
lolhenry
Should you have two solutions?


No because the x2 is cancelled out, so the highest power of x remaining is to the power one.
Reply 15
CHEM1STRY
No because the x2 is cancelled out, so the highest power of x remaining is to the power one.



Oh right, guess i got confused with the ones that have two solutions ^^.
Reply 16
thanks very much guys :smile: have just written it out and i think i understand it! will have to do some more practice though.

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