Muslim Model Recieves Abuse For Entering Miss UK

Erm, she isn't a Muslim though.

Has Allah prohibited her from wearing such clothes? Yes
Does she believe Allah has allowed her to wear such clothes? Yes

Ergo, she's just committed Kufrul-Istihaal.

http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/aqeedah/0038.htm

I think you are wrong too.

That description on that website is very brief.

Also, I thinks its a very questionable interpretation of her actions. She hasn't said its Islamically lawful to wear such clothes. She is just saying she wants to wear such clothes and she should be allowed to in a western democracy.

Wrong.

Committing a sin does not take someone out of the 'fold of Islam' as I have seen it refered to.

You can commit many sins, but as long as you are sincere, ask for forgiveness etc. it may well be accepted.

Also - the only true conditions to be accepted as Muslim is to believe in the declaration of faith. Ofcourse there is lots of other guidance on being a 'good muslim' but just because you break a rule or two doesn't automatically make you a non-muslim.

Further to this - modern day muslims, according to my muslim friend - make a huge deal out of things that aren't that significant in the religion.

This is a prime example. It is more important not to abuse people, issue death threats etc. than being dressed modestly. What she is doing is no doubt a sin in Islam but not as serious as what the abusers are doing.

Another example of this is what is referred to as 'back biting', talking **** about other people. It is considered to 'weaken their belief' and one of hte gravest sins possible. Yet you will see Muslims committing this sin left, right and centre (just like everyone else in modern society), but nobody seems to give a ****?

Any of the above could be wrong in the finer details, but I'm fairly sure the gist of it is correct.

Ah I see. So does that mean I can go out clubbing, drink alcohol, **** everything with a pulse, but it's okay as long as I ask for forgiveness later?

its her choice. the abuse is really uncalled for.

As for those saying she can't call herself a Muslim, yes she can. Yes partaking in the beach wear part of the contest is contradicting Islamic principles, and thus its a sin...but it doesn't mean to say she is no longer Muslim, thats something for Allah to judge and decide upon.

Erm, she isn't a Muslim though.

Has Allah prohibited her from wearing such clothes? Yes

Does she believe Allah has allowed her to wear such clothes? Yes

Ergo, she's just committed Kufrul-Istihaal.

http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/aqeedah/0038.htm

I agree that yes it is forbidden to dress like that, but that doesn't stop her being a Muslim. Based on your reasoning you could easily say that someone who bitches about another is no longer a Muslim because back biting is something prohibited in Islam. Whether somone is a Muslim or not isn't as black and white as you make out, and I don't think that website is enough to make such a bold declaration.

its her choice. the abuse is really uncalled for.

As for those saying she can't call herself a Muslim, yes she can. Yes partaking in the beach wear part of the contest is contradicting Islamic principles, and thus its a sin...but it doesn't mean to say she is no longer Muslim, thats something for Allah to judge and decide upon.

Erm, she isn't a Muslim though.

we arent the ones to judge that she isnt a muslim god is!...i dont think its right what shes doing especially as shes saying muslims should follow the western lifestyle and all but we arent the ones to judge and its her choice i dunno why people are making such a big deal....theres loadsa muslims out there that do crazy stuff but thats their choice and god will decide if its right or wrong not us...

Erm, re-read what I wrote. You can't deduce that based on my reasoning. My reasoning was that she states it's ALLOWED ergo changing the religion and what's haram to halal ergo committing Kufrul-Istihaal.


6. Kufrul-Istihaal: Disbelief out of trying to make HARAM into HALAL. This applies to someone who accepts as lawful (Halal) that which Allaah has made unlawful (Haram) like alcohol or adultery.Only Allaah subhanahu wa ta'ala has the prerogative to make things Halal and Haram and those who seek to interfere with His right are like rivals to Him and therefore fall outside the boundries of faith.

If the person back biting believes back biting is halal they aren't a Muslim. That's my reasoning.

drop the tone.

In my opinion, I don't think its fair to say that someone is not a Muslim based on that website unless you're Islamically qualified to do so, but even then I think God is our ultimate judge on that one. Lets just agree to disagree.
salaams

drop the tone.

In my opinion, I don't think its fair to say that someone is not a Muslim based on that website unless you're Islamically qualified to do so, but even then I think God is our ultimate judge on that one. Lets just agree to disagree.
salaams

Can I worship idols and be a Muslim? Can I believe Mohamed is a false prophet and be a Muslim?