TSR Med Students' Society Part III

I understand what you're saying here, but with such a small sample size you can't assert much. I reckon less than 30% of my year would've been able to understand that passage. I don't think that's a bad thing either: I wouldn't look down on my doctor for now knowing it in such detail.

I despair of picking a chairperson. We are all adults, we don't need to pick a chairperson. We are all capable of answering questions. I always feel like a bully when I'm chairperson picking people to answer questions. If they don't want to talk, they don't talk. They know they will get marked down in the professionalism judgements if they don't talk. It's just awkward if I try and make them. Also, the only peer teaching we do in PBL is maybe if I've seen something relevent at my job at a GP's or in my previous life as a biomed student that would help the group understand something, or if it isn't something you can research. I quite like PBL, but that's because I work better independently and don't like lectures.

As long as my doctor could explain it to me (and all their patients) in a way that could be understood regardless of level of education and have enough detailed knowledge to answer slightly more searching questions. I would say that is enough detail.

I think sufficient detail to understand why pathology appears and why medications prescribed alleviate it is important. Additionally, to understand a lot of relevant research, a level of knowledge beyond what you're suggesting is often required.

Ah well, glad to hear you have got some improvements carcinoma re: teachers and examable material...and MedicineMan has seen some improvements since my day! Just goes to show how it all depends on the course...can't say I still like PBHell though

Our courses are so similar it scares me. If you just change the names of a few sessions/assessments we essentially have the same course structure.


What is a PBL write up? We have never been (well with my facilitators anyway) allowed us to use notes.


"the whole chairperson allocation, brainstorming, grouping/numbering issues etc" I dont really understand what issues?

In your Whole year PBL recap sessions, are they set out in a quiz types setting with explanations of the answers/physiology and anatomy of the answers then a run through of all the things you are supposed to have learnt?

Our courses are so similar it scares me. If you just change the names of a few sessions/assessments we essentially have the same course structure.

I despair of picking a chairperson. We are all adults, we don't need to pick a chairperson. We are all capable of answering questions. I always feel like a bully when I'm chairperson picking people to answer questions.

Basically, some facilitators insist you follow the bloody 7 step process - they'll stop you, ask you to group things together, number your points etc. when sometimes this is soooo unnecessary and the objectives can literally be decided 5 minutes after reading the case. Some tutors let you get on with it and I really like that! And when it’s time to decide who should be chair/scribe - the scribe is a useful job as you can see what you have discussed, but I don't see the point of a chair (and people generally don't like going for the role). You don't pick on people to speak (at least I don't), you just let the discussion flow, and have the awesome job of filling up the awkward silences in the sessions!

I am so glad I didn't have to do PBL like that like I did at Keele *vigorous nod*. We would just waste so much time doing some steps when it didn't really help ad could be skipped. Though I guess here isn't true PBL as we get our objectives given to us They did give us some bizarre stuff though sometimes. I actually prefer chairing to scribing as you don't have to work double speed trying to write up your notes and the ones on the whiteboard.

Here they make us make them up, then give them to us. (lol)

Here they make us make them up, then give them to us. (lol)

Is anyone else getting vicariously nervous (or is it just because I have a younger sister getting her A2 results)?

Same position. Pretty big jump between firm and insurance too.

What is she planning on doing? Mine has firmed Cardiff for psych.

Biology at Leeds. Not sure she's convinced by her subject choice though. Ultimately she just wants to do nothing and everything just work out fine without any effort on her part.

Can i post here yet?