NHS Clinical Scientist Recruitment

I'm from the midlands as well and don't really want to move away. I've applied to some of the Welsh ones but it's only really as a last resort if I can't get a position anywhere on the scheme, where did you do your placement at?

I'm from the midlands as well and don't really want to move away. I've applied to some of the Welsh ones but it's only really as a last resort if I can't get a position anywhere on the scheme, where did you do your placement at?

Ye I just need to decide what I want to do. At Heartlands Hospital, in the multi- discipline one. Did you do a placement?

I thought you were someone I went to uni with for a second then, but she went to Good Hope, that would have been awkward! lol Yeah I did one at Birmingham Women's Hospital. What uni do you go to? Aston?

Hi, I'm new to this, I failed the numerical test :/ and just wanted to know what people were thinking of doing if they have failed or aren't successful with this scheme. I'll apply for this scheme next year, and have a few back ups but just wondered what others were thinking of doing.

And Laura130490, I think you might be Laura from uni, so hello lol!

Lol! it would have been. No De Montfort. What uni do you go to?

Agree with post above (minnie). I heard today yet another one of my extremely qualified friends failed. AGAIN, PhD, Masters, lots of awards, prizes supervision AND even long NHS experience. Nope! She failed. She hadn't practiced either. I just don't think it relates well to how a job is done, nor it is like medicine tests. It's just not the same... And I will be sending my complaint soon. The strange thing compared to last years is that now all I hear is about qualified scientists being left out constantly but others like undergraduates or recent graduates pass them. Could it be related that the junior scientists now take similar numerical tests for practice while older ones (with postdocs etc) did not? (If they had in the past, it's not up-to-date).

Well as you've said, she didn't do any practice. Personally I don't think this test does anything to determine whether you will be a good scientist, but what it does test you on is your motivation. Everyone knew they had to do a numerical and logical reasoning test, they gave a while to allow applicants to get some practice in, and to be honest, the math required isn't much more difficult than what 11 year olds learn (percentages etc.) so it really is a matter of practice practice practice until you're able to perform well. So in a way, these test seperate individuals who have put int he time and effort to practice, and those who have not (with a few people just being lucky/unlucky mixed in)

I suppose that since it's the NHS, and that it's likely that eventually clinical scientists will enter into management, they'll probably be looking more at people who will be a dab hand at fiddling the books

When most of us work in a high-demanding position from 7 to 11 every night including most weekends, what do you expect? I actually find your tone condescending and EXTREMELY arrogant (especially the 11 year old part). And as if those who didn't practice didn't want it enough. Well, it's far from the truth! The ones online were also extremely easy. Trust me, now we know about such practice tests, we'll be practicing all year this year until next time and probably we'll be posting about our success here in 2013.

I'm sorry, but the "not wanting it enough" part made me cringe.

Sorry if I came across as arrogant, but its true, my cousin can answer the questions, he is 11, he jsut takes a while to answer. I'm sure everyone has committments, as do I, i'm currently in the lab for my project from 8-7, then I have my actual write up and other module essays etc. to do so its not like I have an easy life!
Furthermore, I didn't say people that fail don't want it enough! Yet you quoted me as saying such?! There are a number of factors which could cause someone who is prepared to fail, but the main reason most people fail, is due to lack of preparation, you even said your friend failed when she didn't practice, yet she managed many more amazing things

Fail To Prepare…Prepare To Fail

This isn't true, because I practiced for well over a week until I had taken the test, and I failed. So you can't say fail to prepare, prepare to fail. A lot of people may have practiced and not failed for this reason.

Sorry if I came across as arrogant, but its true, my cousin can answer the questions, he is 11, he jsut takes a while to answer. I'm sure everyone has committments, as do I, i'm currently in the lab for my project from 8-7, then I have my actual write up and other module essays etc. to do so its not like I have an easy life!
Furthermore, I didn't say people that fail don't want it enough! Yet you quoted me as saying such?! There are a number of factors which could cause someone who is prepared to fail, but the main reason most people fail, is due to lack of preparation, you even said your friend failed when she didn't practice, yet she managed many more amazing things

Fail To Prepare…Prepare To Fail

I'm from the midlands as well and don't really want to move away. I've applied to some of the Welsh ones but it's only really as a last resort if I can't get a position anywhere on the scheme, where did you do your placement at?

Out of interest, how did you apply for the jobs in Wales? I've been considering doing this as well, as a back up, as home isn't too far away from the border. I've just had a look through NHS Jobs and found a couple of positions, but I don't know if there is something more centralised, and it does mention the STP in the job description but when I tried to find it in the NHS Wales website I couldn't.

I also answered all the questions as well (I screen-capped them for future practice while taking them).