The Manchester United Thread X

Honestly it kills me to keep seeing Kagawa on the bench and cleverley starting. I appreciate the positions are not quite the same and i'm not saying take one off for the other... It's time kagawa built his position and his partnership with RVP and Welbeck (if he learns to shoot)

In other news, please don't waste money on baines... Quality player but totally uneccesary. If we are, get fellaini in, top player.

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Not saying I know the job better than the manager... Kagawa has not played much since he joined us, barely a run. He was a top player in the bundesliga and I see no reason why he cannot be in our league. I'd love to see him play q few games at least.

I see your point as LM. All of our wing options are atrocious. Rather play Zaha then Valencia who has lost his form, or Nani... Where to begin with Nani...

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well the first part is just not true, before his injury he was eased into the first team by Sir Alex and after the injury he played quite a lot as well (he started several games and scored several goals even!), I agree he can be a top player for us, but I think if Moyes isn't playing him then he will have a reason, I mean, to an extent I think the whole Rooney thing hasn't helped because the pressure was on him to pick Wayne so that ruled out Kagawa playing in that role in the first two games to an extent anyway.

Young I thought was good in his first season with us, but last year he looked unfit and off form for us so unless he can get back to his best I can't see him staying with the club longer term, Valencia hopefully will find form again back at number 25, I mean 2009-2010 and 2011-2012 he was pretty good for us. Zaha I think will be a very good player. Nani, well if he stays and can find form then again I think he can be good, I think a lot of the problem for us is the injury problems our wingers and CM's have had of late which really hasn't helped their form, I imagine the players who can get fit and on form will stay and the ones that can't will leave.

As I posted i realised rooney had to be played which leaves kagawa on the bench. Kagawa scored lots of goals in single games. I understand your idea of believing the manager and having faith... But I dont have much faith in Moyes YET. The man knocked my confidence by thinking he could even hope of signing Fabregas and his poor dealing with the press. As a coach, i'm sure he is top notch, though.

I have no hope for Nani. He had never looked decent for more than 3 games. He's got all that potential and a brain the size of a walnut. We shouldve shipped him off, nothing but a liability. Valencia was a top player but is a mere shadow of what he once was. It's getting so predictable and repetitive with him. Young... I like him and I always defend him. But he has done basically nothing apart from the arsenal goals...

As far as the transfer market goes, we could do with a CM. Fellaini would be good, but at the same time we can win the title with the current team too.

Imagine if Rio and Vidic stay fit...

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Sorry to say, but Fabregas was NEVER going to happen. He didn't play much last season, but that's nothing. Might as well have bid for iniesta and xavi! It's as ridiculous add the papers saying arsenal will get ozil/Di maria/benzene. Competent unrealistic transfers. English clubs aren't as desirable destination as continental clubs.

He messed up when he suggested rooney will be played when RVP gets injured. And he made himself look a **** for criticising Martinez for not agreeing our pittance bid for baines and fellaini. I'd rather he didn't speak to the press i'd that's how he deals with things.

I wouldn't say the best in Europe, not at all.

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I have no hope for Nani. He had never looked decent for more than 3 games. He's got all that potential and a brain the size of a walnut.

English clubs aren't as desirable destination as continental clubs.

AM i really seeing this , u guys actually rate cleverly , dont get it twisted he is only there because he is english , he doesnt have one major attribuwhich can scare the opposition , imagine him in the Cl against the likes of dortmont or real .. WHAT MIDFIELD WILL BE DOMINATE?? ... I seriously prefer Anderson at the least ( ignoring his physical problems) Yes we did win convincingly but thats because our attack was on point not our midfield we were run down for long periods if u watched the match.

Am i the only one who thinks that Kagawa is underrated and is being slightly mistreated ?? If u actually put urself in his shoes he now knows he isnt going to play in his fav postion AMC as rooney is staying and moyes seems to think wellbeck / valencia /young are better than him in the wing position ?? If we had a big CF who scored headers then maybe good wingers for crosses but we need more crativity & movement and that is what Kagawa brings ??

I think its pretty obvious were either going to sign Baines and/or Fellaini or nobody at all in this transfer window.

Signing Baines would be completely pointless. Evra is a key player for us, especially in the dressing room. The guy can play 50-60 matches a season and still not get tired. Absolute beast.

come on, no way we would have bid if there wasn't at least a suggestion it could happen.

that's not even what he said if you listen to the full press conference, he said it was one role of many that Rooney could play...no he didn't, it was a reasonable bid the crap was on Martinez side as he is a mug if he thinks that Everton wouldn't accept a bid not that much higher for them, it's empty posturing from Everton cause they don't want to lose their best players.

who's better than a fit and on form Vidic and Ferdinand then?

How do you think united will line up against Liverpool in the league cup?

It'll probably be full of first team fringe players, which is why, personally, I'm not happy with the draw, as it means we probably won't see Lingard, Januzaj etc.