The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

She was quoting a 2002 statement made by a since deceased journalist.

She doesn't run Israel.

no these are the borders of the original mandate for partition dicussed by UN, it was not implemented when UK terminated its mandate later. like i s aid im not going into whats a compicated point of history, jsut wanted to highlight the level of ignorance many people have on the background issues. the whole matter anyway becuase defunct when A israel declared itself a state and received support and then the other arab states then attempted to wipe it off the map.

im not talking about sitting round a table discussing borders, becuase at this point, islamists will not allow that to happen. till islamsits are defeat that stage can never happen

Please do not ever presume to know me.



Given the fact that it affects nearly 4 billion people directly, I'd say that it is not only important, but the "most important conflict on the Planet"...


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stop what? perhaps its you that needs to stop your hating of jews

Jews didn't colonise us, however them killing innocent humans, including children and young women is wrong. It cannot be justified whatsoever.

Wrong! Not Islamic propaganda, we have not turned our backs and closed eyes to see the injustice happening with Palestinians. It is indeed a very important issue because its concerned with humanity, its the killing of innocent humans.

I can't remember, hence why I was asking for it reiterating. Either way, they seem to have no understanding of the situation, nor do they want to believe in logic argument.
If you go back a few pages you could probably find a poorly worded question without a question mark or something.

Warning: Not for the faint hearted:

They "congratulated" the kidnapping, not the murder of the Israeli civilians.

Open a timeline or better yet, learn the difference...

i can presume nothing less, you are painfully predictable and formulaic.

the palestinian matter directly affects a few million at best.. however various politcal hyenas and opportunists have made it a global matter when it really should be a local one. islamists have spent a lot of money spreading the word round the muslims world that this is an islamic issue, and a jihad for all muslims to be part of. again good propaganda work, but in reality it matters no more to the average muslim as the japan-china waters dispute matters to me. but there is no japanese buddhsits chanting doctrine and spreading propagnda at me to keep me interested and keep my donations coming in

I agree and this is exactly why he/she ignored my post regarding the situations under Palestinians are living under. The whole world knows that innocent Palestinians are brutally getting killed and no one justifies the actions of Israel. Its actually sad to see how people can disregard the killing of such innocent and young children and still justify Israel's actions.

Show me where Hamas condemned the murders. Besides, we are not limited to this case. Hamas' entire conduct of war is about killing civilians and always has been.

It is an Islamic issue as well as a Palestinian issue in addition to being a Christian and a Jewish issue.

That makes it around 4 billion people's issues.

Thankfully, we have one less person to add to that list as you have declared yourself to be an uninterested party.

Can I assume that as have declared yourself to be a disinterested party, you will refrain from posting and remove yourself from the thread or is that too much to ask for your opinionated self?

it has become an issue for the entire world- my point is it should never have. europe, the us, south america, most of asia ( non muslims) would be perfectly happy if the palestinians handed over the land to the jews , or vice versa, jsut so long as jews and muslims learnt to settle down live in peace.
its only the islamic agenda that cannot allow a simple peaceful solution, (as they wont in any conflct) i fully beleive islamsits need conflcit to continue, to be able to continually spread their message. they have you under their thumb, why would they let you up?

it has become an issue for the entire world- my point is it should never have. europe, the us, south america, most of asia ( non muslims) would be perfectly happy if the palestinians handed over the land to the jews , or vice versa, jsut so long as jews and muslims learnt to settle down live in peace.
its only the islamic agenda that cannot allow a simple peaceful solution, (as they wont in any conflct) i fully beleive islamsits need conflcit to continue, to be able to continually spread their message. they have you under their thumb, why would they let you up?

the jews didnt colonise you, but the islamic empire did- which seems a rather perverse reason to be obsessed with waht is now, an islamic jihad for Levant.

i refer you to my post to tsr1269 -

the obsession with the palestine conflcit is complelty illogical- the numbers of casualties pale in comparision to something like conflicts of the past in say, east timor, or rwanda, sierra leone. - what about when turks where committing armenian genocide, when saddam was gassing kurds? Silence from the islamic world. the only explanation is that islamic propaganda has brainwashed you to think its the most important conflict on the planet.

Now, go and put yourself in their shoes. They will say the same of Christianity, Israel and the west in general.

If they remained silent, its their fault but If I existed then I wouldn't have. For me, humanity is the most important thing as taught by my religion. If I had the power to bomb Israel, I wouldn't because I acknowledged the fact that they're humans and no humans should be treated brutally.

Plus, suppose if most Muslims have stood up against Israel's attacks on Palestine, what is wrong with that? Why wouldn't you expect them to stand up against it? Would you not stand up for someone innocent who shared your beliefs and was brutally killed ? The truth is that innocent Palestinians are killed and it cannot be justified whatsoever. Please I request you to address the real problem, the killing of innocent humans, you are also a human and I'm sure humanity is higher than anything even for you.

didnt you read the paragraph directly above that i jsut said the West would accept any solution that lead to stabiility . it is islamists that refuse to even accept a jewish state there

Such is the power of the media, especially the likes of the allegedly unbiased BBC.

And yet you can't help yourself, always having an opinion on this matter or that matter.

You have declared yourself to be a disinterested party to this conflict. This is my last post to inform you that I shall not be responding actively to whatever you post from now on.