The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

There are various areas of agriculture in the region and Hamas has designated zones where they could easily station their rockets however they chose to harbour them in schools, UN hospitals and very densely populated areas.

I must say the support people like you give to Hamas begs the question- who's side are you really on in the fight against terrorism? I can't help but think you would aide them

Not liberal as I'd like it to be, but more liberal than many of its neighbours.

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I mean you could say its on par with Iran.

You can be gay in Israel without being put to death.

What, exactly, does this have to do with Islam other than the fact that Hamas are using it to justify attacking Israel? Israel dislike Arabs as a whole, seemingly no matter their religion.

I'm not denying that.

All I'm asking, because you posted that figure 30,000 rockets, is where is the data for the rockets/shells fired by Israel?

Why don't they publicize that figure? In fact, if you wanted to be a neutral (are you a neutral?), then you would post both figures - the rockets fired by Israel and Palestinians, shouldn't you?



Irrelevant to the discussion but good on you.

An overwhelming amount of evidence illuminates who the aggressor is in this conflict.

But you are forced to join the IDF and kill civillians. So i say its on par.

What, exactly, does this have to do with Islam other than the fact that Hamas are using it to justify attacking Israel? Israel dislike Arabs as a whole, seemingly no matter their religion.

Not really. About 1,500 people have died in Gaza out of 1.5 million. From a statistical point of view that is negligible.

Indeed.

Israel withdraws from Gaza.

Hamas respond with rockets.

I mean you could say its on par with Iran.

No. No IDF soldier is forced to kill a civilian. They do so under their own will, or by accident.

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When did Israel "withdraw from Gaza"? They clearly haven't!

Dude, they are much worse off in Gaza you know how many people died in their homes?

Do you think Hamas can do anything is wants it is the under dog here and what if I told you hamas would agree to a cease fire if the blockade on Gaza was lifted.

I am neutral, I said I don't have the figures. Down to a mixture of laziness and probability of them not being published till after the conflict is over. Its worth noting that 30 000 missiles were fired BEFORE the most recent outbreak of conflict, not during. So actually, I don't have figures for either side on the ammunition expenditure of the current conflict. But they will be published at some point.

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2005. Try and keep up.

That wasn't a withdrawal. It was a redeployment of the IDF to Gaza's borders.

Let's try this another way:

How many shells/missiles were fired by Israel on Gaza prior to the start of this conflict? (You have said that they publish after the conflict so I'm asking you for the last updated figures)...

Oh, and judging by what I have seen in the Israel/Palestine megathread, you are most definitely not as you claim, "a neutral"...

If you're referring to the Sabra and Shatilla massacre, its Christian Lebanese militias who did that, as revenge for the killing of PM Gamayel. Sharon had nothing to do with that, and its hypocritical that people still blame him for a case of Christians killing Muslims.