Plane crash: Germanwings A320 crashes in French Alps

So we are in the unsatisfactory position were those who may be at fault hold all the information in secrecy and can release whatever they like and it can't be checked.

A report done in secret by those who may well be at least in part responsible is worthless and dangerous.

Seems like they have hung onto this information for a long time before releasing it.

Is it acceptable that information realted to aircrast safety is withheld from the public?

It is just not acceptable to me the slow pace and delay when lives are at risk same goes for the secrecy.

OK so that probably means one of the cabin crew has been trained as a pilot or co-pilot?

No, not necessarily. Cabin crew receive some basic cockpit training as to what some controls do, where the safety equipment's are.. and so on. It could also be a flight engineer or a standby pilot stepping in. Doesn't have to be cabin crew, it varies with the company.

No, not necessarily. Cabin crew receive some basic cockpit training as to what some controls do, where the safety equipment's are.. and so on. It could also be a flight engineer or a standby pilot stepping in. Doesn't have to be cabin crew, it varies with the company.

That is complete nonsense. Many events can be prevented. In this case, for instance better staff monitoring and two-man flight deck policy might have prevented the tragedy.

When pilot / co-pilot needs the toilet, a member of the cabin crew steps in.

A sincere question here. What would the reaction have been if the person was an Asian? What would you reaction have been? Same background entirely, just difference in race. Thanks.

Member of the cabin? do you suggest there should be a third person in the cockpit, quasi a warden?

Which airfance flight are you referring to?

No, cabin crew = steward/stewardess. But only for short haul flights and only when one of the pilots needs to leave.

On long haul flights there will be a third pilot anyway, negating the issue.

That sounds good. Yeah, that can be helpful in the future to prevent such a horrible event. But that would mean that the requirements in steward/-ess education must be raised, right?

Why? How much education do you think it takes to stand in the cockpit for 5 minutes and know how to unlock a door? That's all that's involved in this. We're not asking them to be able to land the thing.

And let's not pretend that they're untrained in the first place.

It was just a thought. Just hypothetically there is a co-pilot again who starts the final descent in alps while a steward/-ess is in the cabin, does a steward/-ess has not to intervene? and in this moment, I thought, the steward/-ess has to handle the machines - the important ones at least.

The guy only started the descent because he was on his own and because he could guarantee nobody else could get into the cockpit.

Put another person in the cockpit and then that first pilot isn't alone. They also can't lock out the other pilot.

The situation we saw over the alps would be impossible, simply by having another person to stand there for 5 mins.

That is right. He did it when he was alone. But could you really guarantee completely that no one would do it, if there is another person in the cabin?

It's about probability. Many events depend on many factors. No one can control everything in real life. We can just do our best. So events like this one can occur at any time...anywhere.

Even if they did start it, they still had 8 minutes while it descended. Do you really think the other person would not be able to open the door in that time?
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