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Original post by TheTruthTeller
One can argue the whole existence of Israel is a detriment on the UK. Futhermore we cannot simply be "world protectors" enforcing the law purely for our interests.


Yes we can. And we stopped. To our clear detriment.

Stopping middle eastern colonialism has been nothing more than a bullet in the foot. Countries in the middle east are not countries, they are family businesses. We sold land and natural resources to corporate royal families.
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Original post by DesmondHarry
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

FBI Says Israel a Major Player in Industrial Espionagehttp://www.jweekly.com/article/full/7380/fbi-says-israel-a-major-player-in-industrial-espionage/
If Israel Sold Patriot Secrets...http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/20/opinion/if-israel-sold-patriot-secrets.html
Israel Accused of Selling U.S. Secrets to Chinahttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-accused-of-selling-us-secrets-to-china-1510406.html
Israel Gave Secret U.S. Tech to Chinahttp://i-hls.com/2013/12/israel-gave-secret-u-s-tech-to-china/
Israel Secretly Sells American Nuclear Weapons to Chinahttp://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=776
Lavon Affairhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
Israeli Spying on U.S. at 'Alarming Level'http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-spying-us-alarming-level-133658376.html
Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.http://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757
'Israel Stole U.S. Uranium to Build Nukes'http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217955.html
U.S.S. Liberty Incidenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
U.S. Furious at Israel Equipment Transfer to Chinahttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175404#.UwZ2-Eqdmsc

If Israel stabs America, by far it's closest ally, in the back multiple times. Do you thin it's valuable ally?


As if an "ally" has ever meant you are incredibly close and would never do anything to be better at their own expense.

Your greatest friend? He/she would probably sell your details to an assassin for a billion.

The US spies on the UK actively, yet they are our greatest ally. There's no such thing as total trust, let alone in geopolitics.
Original post by SotonianOne
As if an "ally" has ever meant you are incredibly close and would never do anything to be better at their own expense.

Your greatest friend? He/she would probably sell your details to an assassin for a billion.

The US spies on the UK actively, yet they are our greatest ally. There's no such thing as total trust, let alone in geopolitics.

You'll literally justify anything. This is brilliant
Original post by DesmondHarry
You'll literally justify anything. This is brilliant

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Original post by DesmondHarry
You'll literally justify anything. This is brilliant


Provide a counter argument.

I struggle to understand how Israel selling tech to China is more dangerous and hostile to the UK than the US spying on us and hosting their nukes here.
Original post by SotonianOne
Provide a counter argument.

I struggle to understand how Israel selling tech to China is more dangerous and hostile to the UK than the US spying on us and hosting their nukes here.

Israel can't be trusted.
Stop changing the subject, this is Palestine vs Israel, not Palestine,UK and US vs Israel.
But in case you're wondering the United states have helped us numerous times in both joint offensives and on our own. They offered us two air craft carriers during the Argies invasion for example.

Meanwhile Israel,
They break UN Resolutions
They answer to no country
They have nuclear weapons and have stated they will use them if threatened
They are the very definition of a rogue state
But ofcourse this okay because they trade a lot and make money right? :smile::smile:
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Original post by DesmondHarry
Israel can't be trusted.
Stop changing the subject, this is Palestine vs Israel, not Palestine,UK and US vs Israel.
But in case you're wondering the United states have helped us numerous times in both joint offensives and on our own. They offered us two air craft carriers during the Argies invasion for example.

Meanwhile Israel,
They break UN Resolutions
They answer to no country
They have nuclear weapons and have stated they will use them if threatened
They are the very definition of a rogue state
But ofcourse this okay because they trade a lot and make money right? :smile::smile:


I have no interest in the UN. I fully support the US Republican Party to take the US out of the UN next year.

"They answer to no country" - We do?

We have nuclear weapons as well.

They're not a rogue state at all. If possessing nuclear weapons means you are a rogue state then I would most certainly ask you to leave the UK if you want to insult us this way.
So just because you have no interest in the UN, no one else has and Israel doesn't have to answer to them? Brilliant. :wink:

Britain follows America in most of her actions, likewise we also follow the EU if they're sensible.

Now let's have a look at the definition of a rogue state shall we
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Israel has broken international law (http://www.israellawresourcecenter.org/internationallaw/studyguides/sgil3.htm) , and has the intent of destroying other nations. (http://www.timesofisrael.com/chorus-of-israeli-voices-renews-calls-for-iran-strike/) as well as the sampson option I've already told you about.

Any problems understanding the above?

Oh and about our Nuclear weapons, we've signed the Nuclear Non-Profileration treaty and there is no one close by that we don't really squabble with. So we're not an issue.
Original post by DesmondHarry
So just because you have no interest in the UN, no one else has and Israel doesn't have to answer to them? Brilliant. :wink:

Britain follows America in most of her actions, likewise we also follow the EU if they're sensible.

Now let's have a look at the definition of a rogue state shall we
rpgue state.PNG
Israel has broken international law (http://www.israellawresourcecenter.org/internationallaw/studyguides/sgil3.htm) , and has the intent of destroying other nations. (http://www.timesofisrael.com/chorus-of-israeli-voices-renews-calls-for-iran-strike/) as well as the sampson option I've already told you about.

Any problems understanding the above?

Oh and about our Nuclear weapons, we've signed the Nuclear Non-Profileration treaty and there is no one close by that we don't really squabble with. So we're not an issue.


I don't know if no one else has. I certainly know that the majority of Americans don't.

What gave the UN the authority to be the supreme checklist on the validity of a nation?

We also have the intent of destroying other nations, albeit sometimes not by military action, including ISIS, Syria, Iran and Russia. I'm not really interested in breaking "international law" unless it goes against our interests. Therefore I don't understand why you keep posting those links despite quoting my disregard for the UN.
Original post by SotonianOne
I don't know if no one else has. I certainly know that the majority of Americans don't.

What gave the UN the authority to be the supreme checklist on the validity of a nation?

We also have the intent of destroying other nations, albeit sometimes not by military action, including ISIS, Syria, Iran and Russia. I'm not really interested in breaking "international law" unless it goes against our interests. Therefore I don't understand why you keep posting those links despite quoting my disregard for the UN.

Well considering It's the UN who helped found Israel, I think they serve a better moral compass on it than you do pal, considering they invented it.
We don't break international law when we place embargoes on foreign countries such as Russia, Iran and Syria. ISIS isn't a country btw.

Original post by SotonianOne
unless it goes against our interests.


This actually explains quite a lot about you, to be honest.
[QUOTE="DesmondHarry;56535991"]Well considering It's the UN who helped found Israel, I think they serve a better moral compass on it than you do pal, considering they invented it.

No they didn't. That's appalling use of history.

Original post by DesmondHarry
We don't break international law when we place embargoes on foreign countries such as Russia, Iran and Syria.


We have repeatedly broken international law by drone-bombing in Pakistan without their explicit permission.

Original post by DesmondHarry
ISIS isn't a country btw.


It has territory, a government and a currency. That makes it a country.


Original post by DesmondHarry
This actually explains quite a lot about you, to be honest.


K.
[QUOTE="SotonianOne;56536247"]
Original post by DesmondHarry
Well considering It's the UN who helped found Israel, I think they serve a better moral compass on it than you do pal, considering they invented it.

No they didn't. That's appalling use of history.



We have repeatedly broken international law by drone-bombing in Pakistan without their explicit permission.



It has territory, a government and a currency. That makes it a country.




K.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7381315.stm
u wot m9 "On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted (resolution 181) to partition Palestine between a Jewish and an Arab state, with Jerusalem under an international regime."

Stop bringing other countries into it, did I say anything about Pakistan? Oh I forgot, drone strikes are now a form of trade embargo.

Tomorrow I'm going to turn my house into it's own country, I have a currency based around monopoly money and a government, me.
^According to you I could actually do that.
Original post by DesmondHarry


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7381315.stm
u wot m9 "On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted (resolution 181) to partition Palestine between a Jewish and an Arab state, with Jerusalem under an international regime."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yishuv
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine


Original post by DesmondHarry
Tomorrow I'm going to turn my house into it's own country, I have a currency based around monopoly money and a government, me.
^According to you I could actually do that.


Yes, good luck convincing the UK Government you have some kind of territorial sovereignty and are not subject to UK taxes.
Original post by SotonianOne
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yishuv
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine




Yes, good luck convincing the UK Government you have some kind of territorial sovereignty and are not subject to UK taxes.

Original post by DesmondHarry



Your moving the goal posts m8
kids' TV show by the peace-loving 'palestinians'.


Jews are most evil among creations & barbaric monkeys

[video="youtube;reF8utB75tA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reF8utB75tA[/video]
Sermon by peace-loving 'palestinian' - " The Children of Israel had the holiday of Pesach, ‎what is now called Passover. Every holiday, every group would look for a small child, ‎kidnap and steal him, bring a barrel called the barrel of nails... They would put the ‎small child in the barrel and his body would be pierced by these nails. In the bottom of ‎the barrel they would put a faucet and pour the blood... The Devil or one of the big ‎gods, demanded it of them as a condition for fulfilling their wishes, that they eat ‎‎[matzah] bread kneaded with the blood of children"

[video="youtube;54L__2vHQLQ"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54L__2vHQLQ[/video]



Cherry pick what? a 10 year old picture of a girl writing "to Nasrallah" on a shell?

Scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one eh? mind you, one has to scrape the bottom of the barrel when defending the despicable 'palestinian' movement for genocide and Nazism. :smile:

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