Why no discussion on Kevin Spacey and his alleged 'sexual advance'?

With celebrities, it's a very simple formula.

If your work product is looked upon favourably by a large number of people and you are successful and relatively attractive - it's pretty much a certainty that you can get away with almost anything. Your fans will simply make excuses for you, and if enough people say that the allegations against you are lies...you're home free.

If your work product is marginal, you have limited supporters and you're objectively unattractive - well you've had it.

Rolf Harris, Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter - not a huge body of work, not a huge body of devoted fans = guilty, perverted criminals.

Michael Jackson, Bill Wyman, Bill Clinton - huge numbers of supporters, long track record = misunderstood, victims or circumstance or media lies.

Simply put, if you take allegations at face value - where is multiple Oscar winner Kevin Spacey? Is he closer to Rolf Harris or Michael Jackson in terms of profile? That's where his case will probably go.

This makes me sick...

Why so?

People getting away with such serious crimes because of power and influence...

Just had a post of mine in which I linked a BBC article put under review.

No swear words, just polite discussion.


This is one of the greatest sex scandals Hollywood has ever seen and it'll keep on giving.

This is one of the greatest sex scandals Hollywood has ever seen and it'll keep on giving.

Am I the only person who thinks this has been blown way out of proportion?

Clearly making sexual advances to a minor is wrong - but did Spacey know he was a minor? Spacey and Rabb met at a post-show party (so presumably this was quite late) and then went to a nightclub. If you see a young guy out on the town around midnight, you tend not to assume that they're a child. Rabb himself says "it was a different era... I went to work by myself. I would walk to the subway, and go to the theatre by myself" - in short, he behaved like an adult, so Spacey [mistakenly] treated him like one.

It's also worth noting that Rabb was the one who went into Spacey's bedroom during the party. It's not hard to imagine a drunk Spacey coming upstairs after everyone had left to find an (attractive? ) young guy sitting on his bed. He made a move, Rabb did not reciprocate, so he left.

I'm personally not convinced it's the most serious thing in the world either - but it's not exactly as you present it.

Kevin Spacey already knew Rabb - it's pretty certain he knew how old he was.

Had it been a 14 year old girl, I think no-one would be in any doubt that this was misconduct, and the idea that one or other had initiated the truncated encounter would be seen as very unsavoury.

I don't think it's right that as soon as this comes out (ba-dum-tsss) he turns it on himself and discusses how he now "chooses to live as a gay man".

people are getting mad at kevin spacey for coming out..

how could he not?

He has refused to talk about his sexuality for years... this story, if he admits he could have done it = him coming out.

There is no way he can admit possible responsibility without also coming out, because admitting responsibility has the implicit meaning that he is gay/bi.

'Its certainly possible that I made advances on a guy' = I am bi/gay = not in the closet any more.

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Its either deny it completly, which I am glad he did not do.. or admit possible responsibility, and accept that that means your sexuality is known to all.

What are you talking about! No one is mad he came out. People are mad he is trying to gain support amid rape claims by making it about being gay to appease blind liberals and sjw's. That is *not* my wording, that is literally the discussion. They and the gay community dont like that he's using their advocates to distract from the fact that he's an animal. It also re-raises the strangely buried discussion of the correlations between pedopholia and being gay. It's a discussion that needs to happen and the gays dont want it.