Jeremy Corbyn calls vote of no confidence

Didn't this happen already?

No. See this:

That was a vote within the Conservative party because many Conservative MPs didn't/don't have confidence in Theresa May. Jeremy Corbyn was going to call a vote of no confidence before Christmas too but decided against it; I'm glad he did though because now that her deal was voted down by such a large margin the rest of the House is more likely to vote against her than before.

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username1148663

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Original post by sbneelu

Realistically probably at least 20 because the DUP has said they'll support her so I realise it's unlikely but you never know, there's always hope.

You need a two thirds majority under the fixed term parliament act. That is a lot more than 20

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Burton Bridge

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End of the day we don't need a general election as much as the country needs the tories out, we don't need Corbyn playing party politics at this point in time.

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username1148663

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Original post by Burton Bridge

What would change then? They cannot do worse, in fact they would be free of many ties the Conservatives have which make Brexit almost impossible to achieve

They would do Norway which isn’t leaving.

Still paying into the budget, possibly even more than now.
Case law comes from the ECJ
Still got freedom of movement
Still in the single market and customs union.

It’s basically the same as staying in the Eu but losing your voting rights.

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Burton Bridge

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Brilliant mate, I'm a modern socialist so naturally going to have more in common with labour than the tories, however they are not listening to theor constituents at present.

Leave the European Union means leaving the European Union.

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Tootles

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Original post by sbneelu

No. See this:

Ah, right.

All seems very childish really though.

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SmSmSm1

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Original post by Quady

No.

Yes

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sbneelu

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Original post by paul514

You need a two thirds majority under the fixed term parliament act. That is a lot more than 20

Ah whoops. Yeah she's definitely going to survive the vote but all we can do is hope that she'll start taking suggestions into account instead of this whole party blaming thing that she and Corbyn have going on because a No Deal isn't in the interests of anyone and some people seem to think that the EU will eventually come round to the British government's terms but that is unbelievably arrogant and the UK needs the EU a lot more than the EU needs the UK and even the Conservatives realise that. There's nothing that anyone can do but hope at this point.

(edited 5 years ago)

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sbneelu

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Original post by Tootles

Ah, right.

All seems very childish really though.

It does but that's unfortunately what politics seem to coming to these days, like the whole Brexit thing and the US government shutdown.

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Quady

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Original post by SmSmSm1

Yes

When?

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nulli tertius

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Original post by paul514

You need a two thirds majority under the fixed term parliament act. That is a lot more than 20

That is not right. You need a 2/3 majority for an agreed early general election. A vote of no confidence needs only a majority of one. Then there is a 14 day waiting period when a new government can try and be stitched together.

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username1148663

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Original post by nulli tertius

That is not right. You need a 2/3 majority for an agreed early general election. A vote of no confidence needs only a majority of one. Then there is a 14 day waiting period when a new government can try and be stitched together.

Which it can’t because the old one can call no confidence in that and guess what, it has a majority of MP’s

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the bear

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Original post by zhog

Labour in charge of negotiating Brexit, I'd pay to watch it as a movie but would that be comedy or horror?

No Country For Old Men....

There Will be Blood...

Let the Right One In...

any more ?

:holmes:

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username1738683

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Original post by the bear

No Country For Old Men....

There Will be Blood...

Let the Right One In...

any more ?

:holmes:

Repped.

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Doones

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Original post by paul514

You need a two thirds majority under the fixed term parliament act. That is a lot more than 20

It's a simple majority for a vote of no confidence.

Original post by paul514

Which it can’t because the old one can call no confidence in that and guess what, it has a majority of MP’s

No it doesn't - the Conservatives lack a majority hence why the DUP has to prop them up. (And the DUP isn't in government.)

(edited 5 years ago)

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shadowdweller

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Original post by paul514

But they won’t win so it’s irrelevant

Regardless of the outcome, it's hugely relevant - it shows a significant discord in the government in regards to her decisions. And nothing is decided until the vote happens, if there wasn't a chance of her losing it wouldn't have been called.

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username1148663

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Original post by Doonesbury

No it doesn't - the Conservatives lack a majority hence why the DUP has to prop them up. (And the DUP isn't in government.)

Yes but for them to then form a government the same motion can be tables against them meaning they then form another government with the DUP hence why the FTPA can’t be beaten, that’s the point of it.

This is all academic anyway as no one on the government or DUP side is voting against.

It changes nothing

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username1148663

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Original post by shadowdweller

Regardless of the outcome, it's hugely relevant - it shows a significant discord in the government in regards to her decisions. And nothing is decided until the vote happens, if there wasn't a chance of her losing it wouldn't have been called.

They are calling it because it’s their policy so they can move on to second referendum calling.

All it shows is the opposition parties to the government want to be in government, big surprise!

It does nothing.

You will be on here at 8pm going well back to square 1 we don’t have a deal that parliament will pass other than Norway so will the PM put that to a binding vote or will she go with no deal. 🙄

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turquoise_badger

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No majority for May's deal
No majority for 2nd Referendum
No majority for no-deal Brexit
(Probably) no majority for vote of no confidence and general election.

May's only option is to ask for an extension to Article 50, during which nothing will happen because nobody can agree on anything. May will be forced out via a vote of no confidence in a year's time, but any replacement regardless of their perspective on Brexit will not command a majority in Parliament. Even if Corbyn gets the votes for a vote of no confidence and a general election tonight, he almost certainly will not win an outright majority, and based of recent polls might not even get largest party, leaving Parliament even more split.

I foresee a dim political future.

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Doones

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Original post by turquoise_badger

No majority for May's deal
No majority for 2nd Referendum
No majority for no-deal Brexit
(Probably) no majority for vote of no confidence and general election.

May's only option is to ask for an extension to Article 50, during which nothing will happen because nobody can agree on anything. May will be forced out via a vote of no confidence in a year's time, but any replacement regardless of their perspective on Brexit will not command a majority in Parliament. Even if Corbyn gets the votes for a vote of no confidence and a general election tonight, he almost certainly will not win an outright majority, and based of recent polls might not even get largest party, leaving Parliament even more split.

I foresee a dim political future.

Tend to agree with this - the VONC will fail tonight.

Jeremy Corbyn calls vote of no confidence

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