Muslim parents seek removal of gay teacher

Why have you railroaded this thread so you cna discuss your issues with the west zzzzzzz.
It is about this school and the protest. If you want to go and discuss western forign policy, then go and start another thread or you will be asked to move by the mods.There are thousands of threads complaining about the west already.

This is a biased and rose-tinted reading of history which I have sadly seen many English people have. The British Empire will never be a model for civility or 'moral rectitude' to other countries. There is the Bengal Famine which killed over a million, there were massacres of thousands of peaceful protesters in India, a British capital punishment in India was to strap a man to the front of a cannon and fire a shot through their chest, in Kenya (though this is post-Victorian era and in the last 60 to 70 years) hundreds of thousands were interned in concentration camps and tens of thousands lost their lives when trying to get independence from British rule, concentration camps during the Boer War, and so on.The British Empire was not morally superior to its peers, it was the same, and it cared little for moral rectitude only insofar as public order was concerned... but thanks for the trains, yeah?

Why would what Daesh do matter to me (regarding my morality)? You may as well have said "Just look at how the Hutus treated the Tutsis in Rawanda" - it has no relevance to my moral position

I'm talking about Christianity Christianity. Not a bunch of denominations that decided to go against their own Bible. There is also a difference between condemning homosexual acts and condemning those who are homosexual. It's the act that's a sin.

The whole Bible is old scripture. From what I see especially of the CoE that is more about the humanitarian side of things, being good to your neighbour rather than hardcore religious docterine.

there is no reliable evidence to link Allah with moon worship. although there were many idols in the Kaaba of Mecca they were removed some 600 years after Christ.

Christianity plays little to no part in state affairs, and of those who say they are Christian in the census, most of them are irreligious, and this will only get worse in the next 2 decades as the older generations die out. As such, the state is godless; the people (which are not the state) are not uniformly godless but it is slowly going that way, and that includes those from the Muslims becoming secular/atheistic too.

Regarding the moon-god comment, either (1) you have no idea about Semitic languages and are generally ignorant of its relation between Arabic, Hebrew and Aramaic/Syriac, or (2) you buy too much into the rubbish American/Western missionaries come up with to try discredit Islam and genuinely believe Allah is the name of a moon-god, or perhaps (3) you know it is not true but you like to use it since there is no intellectual way for you to express you don't like me/Muslims/Islam(?)

Funny; the CofE professes scriptural supremacy (article VI) but accepts that all are sinners. Source: am an active Anglican.


Isn't that around the time Islam was founded, give or take a century?

i think that Our Lord walked among us some 600 years before these events.

Erm... I'm not saying he didn't. I've said pretty categorically that I'm a practising Christian, and I've always been open on here that I'm an eternal student of theology.

thank you for elucidating

If you actually clicked on the link provided you could answer that question yourself.

I've already seen that video, and unless I've missed something, they never said they wanted the teacher removed. So it's a misleading title. Did you watch it?

This is a biased and vitriol-tinted reading of history which I have sadly seen many anti-English people have.

How have I been unfair in my assessment? I never said the British Empire was worse than its peers, I merely discredited the idea that it exported moral advancement to the rest of the world.

As a muslim, this is ridiculous. Intolerance of anyone (unless they are hurting someone) is unacceptable in Islam.

I'm Muslim as well and I think that's wrong. You shouldn't discriminate people because of their sexual orientation.
Muslim parents should just teach their children that Islam goes against homosexuality but that they should be tolerant and accept peoples life decisions and that they shouldn't be homophobic at all.

Unless specifically told in their religious texts*

what are u saying ..

Ofsted in their 2016 report made a mention of the No Outsiders scheme saying how beneficial it was to the school.

The school should probably give Prevent a call, they seem pretty radicalised in their homophobia.

They want him and the school "investigated" that would I'm sure in their minds lead to removal.

The No Outsiders scheme was investigated and Andrew Moffat got an MBE for it.

This is a biased and rose-tinted reading of history which I have sadly seen many English people have. The British Empire will never be a model for civility or 'moral rectitude' to other countries. There is the Bengal Famine which killed over a million, there were massacres of thousands of peaceful protesters in India, a British capital punishment in India was to strap a man to the front of a cannon and fire a shot through their chest, in Kenya (though this is post-Victorian era and in the last 60 to 70 years) hundreds of thousands were interned in concentration camps and tens of thousands lost their lives when trying to get independence from British rule, concentration camps during the Boer War, and so on.The British Empire was not morally superior to its peers, it was the same, and it cared little for moral rectitude only insofar as public order was concerned... but thanks for the trains, yeah?

Why would what Daesh do matter to me (regarding my morality)? You may as well have said "Just look at how the Hutus treated the Tutsis in Rawanda" - it has no relevance to my moral position