It's really important that career's advice is accessible for everyone
@National Careers Service would you like to know you like to access advice around your career options.
Please answer the poll and chat with us in the thread about how you usually access careers advice and whether it's been helpful
1. Through webchat 2. Face to face with a careers adviser 3. Over the phone 4. Through social media 5. Research career options independently
Research independently- the careers advice I had through a SDS advisor at school was a bit rubbish, and sometimes factually incorrect. Any advice that they did offer was very vague/not specific to the person in front of them, but guess that's what happens when it's a random person that doesn't know you
It's really important that career's advice is accessible for everyone
@National Careers Service would you like to know you like to access advice around your career options.
Please answer the poll and chat with us in the thread about how you usually access careers advice and whether it's been helpful
1. Through webchat 2. Face to face with a careers adviser 3. Over the phone 4. Through social media 5. Research career options independently
It would be great if all of these options were available and have enough information as people will have different preferences. When I was looking for careers advice, I used option 5 and 2. When I was at school, we had the opportunity to talk to a careers adviser, and whilst she was helpful in figuring out our interests, I felt she was very pro-uni and didn't really give enough information about other routes after A-Levels. I'm not sure how it is now, but I think a good careers adviser should provide good information on all routes e.g. college leaver schemes, employment, apprenticeships rather than just pushing one option. Not every student is suited to university.
It's really important that career's advice is accessible for everyone
@National Careers Service would you like to know you like to access advice around your career options.
Please answer the poll and chat with us in the thread about how you usually access careers advice and whether it's been helpful
1. Through webchat 2. Face to face with a careers adviser 3. Over the phone 4. Through social media 5. Research career options independently
From experience, careers advisers are crap. They just ask you a load of questions about yourself which you already know and proceed to give advice about a career sector your not particularly interested in (from my experience). I've also found they (based on 2 careers advisers) try and convince people to do a levels or go to college instead of considering apprenticeships. Can you tell I'm not a fan?
independently to find out as much as I can. Then once I perhaps have an idea of very basic experience of an area I reach out to someone who is experienced. I want to get into film -> i've researched roles and day to day activities -> currently speaking to directors of photography and organising trainee roles onset.
I've always found career advisers to be too general and use a lot of nonspecific terms/reference locations. There's no substitute for finding out how a role works first hand.
Research careers independently - on the couple of occasions I went to the career advisers in college, they kept emphasising apprenticeships to me even though I never mentioned wanting to do one. I much prefer doing research myself on potential careers, though for things like interview and CV help I think face to face careers advice would be more beneficial
It would be great if all of these options were available and have enough information as people will have different preferences. When I was looking for careers advice, I used option 5 and 2. When I was at school, we had the opportunity to talk to a careers adviser, and whilst she was helpful in figuring out our interests, I felt she was very pro-uni and didn't really give enough information about other routes after A-Levels. I'm not sure how it is now, but I think a good careers adviser should provide good information on all routes e.g. college leaver schemes, employment, apprenticeships rather than just pushing one option. Not every student is suited to university.
I totally agree. While id also have preferred options 2 and 5, i think all options should be available. People do have different preferences and ways of doing things. I found at my school that they ave a lot of info on college or 6th form, but not enough info on other stuff like apprenticeships and other stuff. And at 6th form i found that it was very uni orientated and no info on anything else (like college courses, apprenticeships, jobs etc). Careers advice should be better in general.
Research independently- the careers advice I had through a SDS advisor at school was a bit rubbish, and sometimes factually incorrect. Any advice that they did offer was very vague/not specific to the person in front of them, but guess that's what happens when it's a random person that doesn't know you
This is really interesting - did the adviser ask you any questions about yourself/ your interests? Did you have to submit any information beforehand?
From experience, careers advisers are crap. They just ask you a load of questions about yourself which you already know and proceed to give advice about a career sector your not particularly interested in (from my experience). I've also found they (based on 2 careers advisers) try and convince people to do a levels or go to college instead of considering apprenticeships. Can you tell I'm not a fan?
So ultimately you felt that the career advisers had an agenda? They were trying to influence you to take a certain route?
independently to find out as much as I can. Then once I perhaps have an idea of very basic experience of an area I reach out to someone who is experienced. I want to get into film -> i've researched roles and day to day activities -> currently speaking to directors of photography and organising trainee roles onset.
It sounds like you have a really great strategy. Have you ever spoken to a careers adviser yourself?
I've always found career advisers to be too general and use a lot of nonspecific terms/reference locations. There's no substitute for finding out how a role works first hand.
So you didn't feel like it was tailored enough to you personally? How could it have been more helpful?
Research careers independently - on the couple of occasions I went to the career advisers in college, they kept emphasising apprenticeships to me even though I never mentioned wanting to do one. I much prefer doing research myself on potential careers, though for things like interview and CV help I think face to face careers advice would be more beneficial
So did you feel that they had more of an agenda or did you feel that they genuinely thought an apprenticeship would be the best route for you?
So you didn't feel like it was tailored enough to you personally? How could it have been more helpful?
Indeed. I suppose it's a limitation really, you can't expect someone to know intimately every job, the best resources and someone who can help you get where you want.
But a career adviser can be useful from their knowledge of what sorts of jobs there are. Even if they don't know the area in detail.. guiding someone towards an area they didn't know about can be useful.
It ultimately impossible for a careers advisor to know every detail about careers. Even when you get a well informed random, they typically can only talk about things in vague manners given how quickly the job market evolves and the individual preferences people and potential employers have.
Wouldn't expect anyone to, more meant it in the sense that someone who knew me (even if they had a lesser knowledge of careers) might have been able to offer more helpful advice
This is really interesting - did the adviser ask you any questions about yourself/ your interests? Did you have to submit any information beforehand?
The first time they met me, they asked what I wanted to do, but didn't really ask much as I think that the notes on the school system already gave them some information about students (not sure exactly what things that includes).
So did you feel that they had more of an agenda or did you feel that they genuinely thought an apprenticeship would be the best route for you?
I think that that particular adviser just wasn't really listening to me and giving generic advice; I went to a different one later and they were much better
I think that that particular adviser just wasn't really listening to me and giving generic advice; I went to a different one later and they were much better
I think mainly because they actually showed an interest in trying to help me. I was able to discuss different job ideas and university courses that would be suitable for me with them, unlike the first adviser who didn't have much to suggest other than 'try looking into apprenticeships' even after I said I wanted to go to uni
I totally agree. While id also have preferred options 2 and 5, i think all options should be available. People do have different preferences and ways of doing things. I found at my school that they ave a lot of info on college or 6th form, but not enough info on other stuff like apprenticeships and other stuff. And at 6th form i found that it was very uni orientated and no info on anything else (like college courses, apprenticeships, jobs etc). Careers advice should be better in general.
That's really interesting to hear. Were the people giving the advice teachers or trained career advisers?
I prefer research. Career advisors at school were terrible; told us to think outside the box (good) but then suggest career options that were not appropriate (i.e. I didn't do an A Level science yet was told to consider anthropology).