Italy bans unvaccinated children from school

herd immunity though

Eh.

Edward Jenner was active around the 18th century - I'm sure JRM can accommodate for an extra century



What has the Belt and Road initiative got to do with vaccinations?

It doesn't help the argument when people resort to childish labels or cliches such as herd immunity.
People should be asking themselves how effective are these forced drugs and what is the testing and followup regime and how could it be affected by conflicts of interest instead of parroting what they have heard on mumsnet.

I can understand the argument and why it has been done in Italy, but cannot see it happening at least country-wide in the UK. Unless the DUP believe in it, which I doubt. Presumably Jacob Rees-Mogg is against it as it was not about in the 17th Century.

Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.

It doesn't help the argument when people resort to childish labels or cliches such as herd immunity.
People should be asking themselves how effective are these forced drugs and what is the testing and followup regime and how could it be affected by conflicts of interest instead of parroting what they have heard on mumsnet.

Some parents don't want to put a seatbelt on their child. Do you recognise that and accept it?

herd immunity though

EDIT: the levels have dropped to 80% which is too low for herd immunity - I'm pretty sure its 85/90% for herd immunity to work

Yeah

A Corbynista I presume..?

ill say it again, if my parents cant give my lil bro peanuts in his lunchbox y'all can't bring measles

Herd immunity is a medical term, not a cliche. You may not like it but it is what scientists, academics, doctors and,.indeed, governments use to describe the effect.

https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/news/herd-immunity-how-does-it-work

https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/work/protection/index.html

https://campaigns.health.gov.au/immunisationfacts/community-herd-immunity

What? People who can't be vaccinated should stay at home because some people choose not to vaccinate their children - for no good reason?

Antivaxxers undermine herd immunity.

It should only really be relied on if a child *cannot* be vaccinated for whatever reason. Not an excuse to not get vaccinated if you can

It's more like force feeding everyone peanuts because a few people lack the nutrients they provide. Except replace peanuts with vaccines and nutrients with poor immune systems.


How many people are arguing about herd immunity in good faith versus those who are repeating what they've heard in order to be snide? It's good that most people have avoided the worse comments this topic attracts but it can still be better.



They are the people with the problem. They would be at risk of any germs.
For example people with AIDs are at risk of the parasite in cat droppings. Why aren't people demanding a microchip and vaccination regime for cats to protect those with poor immune systems?

P.S Using the american term "antivaxxer" makes you look ignorant.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47536981


"Italian children have been told not to turn up to school unless they can prove they have been properly vaccinated.
The deadline follows months of national debate over compulsory vaccination.

Parents risk being fined up to €500 (£425; $560) if they send their unvaccinated children to school. Children under six can be turned away.

The new law came amid a surge in measles cases - but Italian officials say vaccination rates have improved since it was introduced."

Good and I would like this to go further. Parents who knowingly send their children to school when they are ill should be fined too. We could significantly reduce the amount of ill health and disease in society by preventing contagion. We don't even bother half the time.

Do you think that Bill Gates' children will have the same vaccines that they are forcing onto the masses?