Is this racism?

I don't think anyone has a problem with people practising religion in their own time, but expecting children to take part in a religion they may not subscribe to - whether or not their parents do - at the taxpayers' expense - seems unreasonable. Dividing people up by religion at school also reduces understanding in a multicultural society,

I don't think anyone has a problem with people practising religion in their own time, but expecting children to take part in a religion they may not subscribe to - whether or not their parents do - at the taxpayers' expense - seems unreasonable. Dividing people up by religion at school also reduces understanding in a multicultural society,

It's unacceptable that someone should judge you based on probabilities. The stats on crime and ethnic minorities shouldn't affect how we should treat BME people.

That's the same for anything then teaching children a language they may never speak in the future, teaching children history they may never use in the future. It's just a few classes a week and and it causes no harm to society. If you're so focused on tax payers money you should be focusing on all the money they pay the Queen. Also, your tax payers money is used towards the NHS and other public health sectors I don't think however much you pay is used towards Islamic schools.

In Islam, the Niqab is worn mostly to emulate the dress code of some great Muslim females. I can assure you that it isn't a political statement. If you spoke to women who wear Niqab I think you'll find most of them are very kind hearted.

It's just a few classes a week and and it causes no harm to society.

The states provides it but the state also provides funding to the Queen and yet you think your tax payers money is going to the Islamic school? Its not indoctrination its a few classes a week stop pushing your agenda. They do the same GCSE'S as everyone else. Psychology is not fact nor is ethics and theology and yet that's still taught with no objection?

More than half of British Muslims (who I would expect to be moderate) want homosexual acts to be illegal. Is that "kindhearted"?

You have no authority or say in how the government chooses to spend tax payers money

nor do you fund as much of it as you think you do.

Psychology and Ethics are not fact

and religion is not taught as fact

The classes only being 2 days a weeks is oppose to u saying their indoctrinating students.

Also what happened to if you want to debate go in the debate section was no one interested in entertaining you so you've decide to come start debates in other forums?

The UK is a Democracy. I get to vote. I am actively asked for my opinion, as are all voters.


I know exactly how much of it I currently fund - none. I don't live in the UK, or, currently, pay tax there (other than VAT when I visit).


Evidence and the accepted conclusions are presented.


How many religions does an Islamic school teach?


Irrelevant.


For someone not interested in discussion, you reply a lot.

I've had enough of your illogic, so I won't reply to you further on this thread. As you're hiding behind anonymous, I, unfortunately can't do the same elsewhere.

Psychology and Ethics and philosophy are not fact and are still taught yet you have no problem with that. Goodbye back to your debate forum were no one cares to entertain you.

I'm having a debate with some of my friends who are either south asian/black/Muslim. We are debating whether racism exists in the UK. A few anecdotes came up but we can't decide if it is actually racism or if it can be explained otherwise. I'd really like to know your opinions.

1. When I went to university I was speaking to some people who I would consider as very socially liberal and I mentioned that I went to an Islamic school. A few from that group looked around in shock/disgust as though I made a faux pas for mentioning it. Is this racism - these guys went to BLM protests voted remain etc. Was it inappropriate to mention Islamic school - I here people mention Catholic school all the time?

2. One of my friends was at another university where some people were very welcoming. But once they saw him in Islamic dress code and would no longer talk to him. In example 1 and 2 these people are clearly liberals. And perhaps their reaction is because they they associate many things in Islam to be against their liberal and tolerant values. So they weren't trying to cause any offence but but inadvertently did so

3. One of my friends is from a minority ethnic background and he's from Oxford. When he moved to a northern city many people would be nice to him until he started speaking. He Suspects that people were not nice to him because he was well spoken and and an ethnic minority. But my question is is this racism or or would people from the North or places like Essex be like that towards anyone who sounded like they were privileged? Or is it that people don't feel comfortable with certain people being more privileged than them. (I have experienced baristas sometimes are rude once they hear me speak, but they probably loathe anyone whom they assume is privileged and they're job is horrible - I never get this from Europeans/Asians.)

4. At university all of us acknowledge that most White English people would not mix with anyone who is not white. You generally only see Europeans mixing with minority ethnic people. My friends who are female experience this more so. Again is this because people tend to hang around people who they have more in common with or is this down to race. (In my own experience I had some white friends who would talk to me when they were in European groups but would ignore me when they were with their white friends. But sometimes I felt this was a social class thing rather than a race thing because I consider myself working class and I think at uni people are always thinking about keeping up impressions)

5. Last year some of my friends during Extinction Rebellion protests. They felt at though they were not welcome. It is true that most people at these protests were white but in my observation they are generally a 'type' - they only really mix well with their own cliques. I know it's a massive of generalisation but generally you can identify someone by appearance as a typical climate change protester.


Let me know if you've experienced the above and whether you think it's racism or you think it's poor character/classism/inferiority complex

Thanks

I don't think anyone has a problem with people practising religion in their own time, but expecting children to take part in a religion they may not subscribe to - whether or not their parents do - at the taxpayers' expense - seems unreasonable. Dividing people up by religion at school also reduces understanding in a multicultural society,

Philosophy and Ethics are all about looking at ideas, seeing different points of view and discussing the pros and cons - these are important skills to learn. Religion is about accepting facts without proof - that's what faith is.