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    Reduce it to 16
    391
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    Keep it at 17
    1,016
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    Increase it to 18
    584
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    18. Children should not be allowed to operate such heavy machinery
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    (Original post by Reue)
    18. Children should not be allowed to operate such heavy machinery
    Child is relative. Are you saying you're a child if you're one hour before your 18th birthday but a fully grown up adult, able of "operating such heavy machinery" a hour into being 18?
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    (Original post by Pablo Picasso)
    Child is relative. Are you saying you're a child if you're one hour before your 18th birthday but a fully grown up adult, able of "operating such heavy machinery" a hour into being 18?
    Yes.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Yes.
    I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny
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    (Original post by Pablo Picasso)
    I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny
    Not really much point continuing this conversation then.
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    You can't drive a 1L Corsa at 16 but you can can drive a tractor.

    I love this country.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    18. Children should not be allowed to operate such heavy machinery
    A car is not heavy machinery, some of them can be lifted by a few people.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    18. Children should not be allowed to operate such heavy machinery
    You can drive a tractor at 16 if I remember correctly.

    Do you have any actual argument as to why the driving age should be raised? "Children shouldn't do x" isn't itself an argument. Why should 17 year olds not be able to learn to drive but 18 year olds can? It just seems entirely arbitrary to do that.
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    You can drive a tractor at 16 if I remember correctly.

    Do you have any actual argument as to why the driving age should be raised? "Children shouldn't do x" isn't itself an argument. Why should 17 year olds not be able to learn to drive but 18 year olds can? It just seems entirely arbitrary to do that.
    I recall reading that accident rates are considerably higher for younger drivers. Whether that be due to age or inexperience I don't know, probably a combination of the two.

    I'll refer to my argument about having the voting and drinking ages at 18 also: There needs to be a cut off at some point and it makes the most sense to have it at 18 when children become adults.
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    You can drive a tractor at 16 if I remember correctly.
    You can as long as it isn't over I believe 2.65m wide, off the top of my head.

    So big tractor and sprayer wheels.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Not really much point continuing this conversation then.
    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    You can drive a tractor at 16 if I remember correctly.

    Do you have any actual argument as to why the driving age should be raised? "Children shouldn't do x" isn't itself an argument. Why should 17 year olds not be able to learn to drive but 18 year olds can? It just seems entirely arbitrary to do that.
    She doesn't have any valid point; delusional
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    (Original post by Pablo Picasso)
    She doesn't have any valid point; delusional
    She :curious:

    My point was that I believe being 18 and thus an adult should be the minimum age. You can disagree with the content of it, but it doesn't make me delusional for having it
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    17 is a good age. Gives sixth form and college students time to get their driving lessons in and hopefully pass before starting uni?
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    (Original post by Reue)
    I recall reading that accident rates are considerably higher for younger drivers. Whether that be due to age or inexperience I don't know, probably a combination of the two.

    I'll refer to my argument about having the voting and drinking ages at 18 also: There needs to be a cut off at some point and it makes the most sense to have it at 18 when children become adults.
    Driving is a bit different because you have to learn for a while though. I started learning at 17 and passed about 3 months after turning 18, and I know lots of other people who passed when 18 or just before turning 18.

    Not being able to take your test until 18 I could maybe understand, but when you're learning to drive you're not allowed out on your own, so I don't see any reason why people shouldn't be allowed to even have driving lessons at 17. If people can't learn to drive until 18, they will likely end up still having lessons and tests when they're at university or in work, which is a lot more difficult than doing it when you're still doing A Levels and you have more spare time.
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    Driving is a bit different because you have to learn for a while though. I started learning at 17 and passed about 3 months after turning 18, and I know lots of other people who passed when 18 or just before turning 18.

    Not being able to take your test until 18 I could maybe understand, but when you're learning to drive you're not allowed out on your own, so I don't see any reason why people shouldn't be allowed to even have driving lessons at 17. If people can't learn to drive until 18, they will likely end up still having lessons and tests when they're at university or in work, which is a lot more difficult than doing it when you're still doing A Levels and you have more spare time.
    Wasn't there talk actually about not being allowed to take your test until 18?
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    Driving is a bit different because you have to learn for a while though. I started learning at 17 and passed about 3 months after turning 18, and I know lots of other people who passed when 18 or just before turning 18.

    Not being able to take your test until 18 I could maybe understand, but when you're learning to drive you're not allowed out on your own, so I don't see any reason why people shouldn't be allowed to even have driving lessons at 17. If people can't learn to drive until 18, they will likely end up still having lessons and tests when they're at university or in work, which is a lot more difficult than doing it when you're still doing A Levels and you have more spare time.
    I'd totally support moving the test to 18 but allowing earlier driving lessons.
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    (Original post by The Blue Nose)
    Drop it to 16
    Do not do this.

    A lot of 17 year olds drive like absolute mangoes, 16 would be bad news.
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    (Original post by Retired_Messiah)
    Do not do this.

    A lot of 17 year olds drive like absolute mangoes, 16 would be bad news.
    i would call it confidence
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    (Original post by The Blue Nose)
    i would call it confidence
    Call it what you like, it doesn't change anything.
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    Drivers under 21 should not be able to carry a passenger who is not in a child seat between 6PM and 6AM.
 
 
 
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