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Reply 60
Also can anyone give me a structure/framework on how to answer a discourse question?
Reply 61
Liv--
Also just thought Can someone explain What anti-language is? AQA endorsed book is quite confusing on it!


I THINK its like a cryptolect as in a "secret" language devised for use by a particular group and is used to exclude others.

I think thats what it is anyway!
Reply 62
KJ1010
I THINK its like a cryptolect as in a "secret" language devised for use by a particular group and is used to exclude others.

I think thats what it is anyway!


Cheers!! :biggrin:
Reply 63
Hello :smile:
Just been reading through this thread, and i've seen that people think 'Language Change' and 'Political Correctness' are both hot to come up.
For Language Change, is that studies such as Bernstein, Jenny Cheshire, Labov's department store study etc etc? Or have i got it completely and utterly wrong?
And is it to do with like how new words enter our lang? Such as compounding/blends/amelioration and the like? :/
Ooh, and how does the Sapir Whorf theory fit in with Political Correctness?
Please help! Getting pretty desperate now! :p:
Reply 64
KJ1010
Guys! Im so confused on clauses and sentence types! Can anyone help me out?


What are you confused about? The differences between simple, compound and complex?

The way I think about it is that a simple sentence is just one action being said sort of like "i went to bed at 8pm last night."

Compound is when you have two simple sentences jammed together with a conjunction: I went to the shops and bought some vanilla ice-cream"

In a complex sentence one or more of the clauses is of lesser importance than others i.e subordinate clauses. "I'm really annoyed with that fly, as it keeps buzzing by my ears, and i want to squash it." 'as it keeps buzzing by ears' makes no sense on it own so its subordinate.

Clause types:
Adverbial - usually explain when where or why something happened "she left before i arrived
Relative - include relative pronouns (who whose which or that) "I love cakesespcially that one"(i think this is right, I am making these examples up!!)
Make any more sense?

As for a plan for discourses, I'm going on the lines of:

1. Linguistic evaluation (AS material, like the noun 'blah' could suggest blah blah...) the way in which the authors have used language to get their view points across. Identify: Topic, Concepts (e.g. PC language is a waste of time..) How they convey it (evaluation stuff, Grammar, Semantics.. any framework you can think of) Factors, why are they so mad? Are they some English Geek who hates any change? (sorry for the silly analogies...lol)
2.Sum up their views and compare with other text, is the same? is different?
3. Research/theories to support their views (e.g. Gender, Man vs Women - bang on about Tannen, Lakoff, Cameron etc)
4. Your opinion - are they talking ********? Theories, research to suggest other wise to support your views
Hope this helps
Liv--
Thanks soooooooo much!! thats makes loads more sense!! :biggrin: So theoritically its down to PC and Language Change? So for a discourses answer you would need to analyse it linguistically (get the point of each texts, and how it conveys its message) then outline your response to it, supporting your view with theories and research. Is that right? So if its "texting" in the discourses, would that suggest that in Section A it could be likely that its Old vs new? What do you think?

Sorry for a very late reply, so you're probably sorted now, but if not, you're absolutely right - it's down to PC and language change. It sounds like your structure for the question is perfect; that's what I'm planning to do.

Yeah, there are essentially two ways they could structure the Section A question: whereas in Jan it gave two texts that discussed an aspect of language change (the pejoration of McJob), it's most likely going to be two texts (an old and a new) that discuss a similar thing, and we have to analyse how the context has shaped the two texts. It helps to know a little about the last few hundred years of the UK (like the influence of religion etc.) to help get into the top mark band for AO3. Sounds like you're sorted, I think you can relax now.
Reply 66
Cutiek8i
Hello :smile:
Just been reading through this thread, and i've seen that people think 'Language Change' and 'Political Correctness' are both hot to come up.
For Language Change, is that studies such as Bernstein, Jenny Cheshire, Labov's department store study etc etc? Or have i got it completely and utterly wrong?
And is it to do with like how new words enter our lang? Such as compounding/blends/amelioration and the like? :/
Ooh, and how does the Sapir Whorf theory fit in with Political Correctness?
Please help! Getting pretty desperate now! :p:


I would of thought that Labov and Cheshire were more variation as they're on about social pressures and prestige..

Compounding etc.. is all processes of change, sort of if you look at an old text and see the word gay, meaning happy, it now means bad - perjoration

SW hypothesis dicates that Language controls our thoughts, so racist words are deemed bad so we think bad of race we're talking about. So It links to PC because PC aims to change our thoughts of the word "retard to Special" for example. Pc changes our thoughts by basically banning bad words i.e. changing our words.
make anymore sense?
Reply 68
Mikei
You could talk about recent studies at the University of Coventry (by Clare Wood) , that texting actually requires the same phonological awareness as writing or reading in standard english. You can talk about how texting can be seen as inclusive device to certain social groups (e.g youth) and it is engrained within youth culture today . You can speak about how it is functionally necessary to have a type of shorthand english due to technological advance (i.e mobile phones) < this could lead to a wider debate about globalisation - you could mention the fact that communities are a lot more interconnected through technology such as texting etc. Then you could bring in prescriptivist attitudes (just basically saying how texting is bad) , i personally would bring in Jean Aitchison's model of 'the damp spoon' and 'crumbling castle' here and maybe bring in the fact that text language could be seen as a cryptolect/anti-language by excluding some of access to it. With the two items to refer to , there should be quite a bit to write about :o:


Definitely - all good stuff
Reply 69
Liv--
What are you confused about? The differences between simple, compound and complex?

The way I think about it is that a simple sentence is just one action being said sort of like "i went to bed at 8pm last night."

Compound is when you have two simple sentences jammed together with a conjunction: I went to the shops and bought some vanilla ice-cream"

In a complex sentence one or more of the clauses is of lesser importance than others i.e subordinate clauses. "I'm really annoyed with that fly, as it keeps buzzing by my ears, and i want to squash it." 'as it keeps buzzing by ears' makes no sense on it own so its subordinate.

Clause types:
Adverbial - usually explain when where or why something happened "she left before i arrived
Relative - include relative pronouns (who whose which or that) "I love cakesespcially that one"(i think this is right, I am making these examples up!!)
Make any more sense?

As for a plan for discourses, I'm going on the lines of:

1. Linguistic evaluation (AS material, like the noun 'blah' could suggest blah blah...) the way in which the authors have used language to get their view points across. Identify: Topic, Concepts (e.g. PC language is a waste of time..) How they convey it (evaluation stuff, Grammar, Semantics.. any framework you can think of) Factors, why are they so mad? Are they some English Geek who hates any change? (sorry for the silly analogies...lol)
2.Sum up their views and compare with other text, is the same? is different?
3. Research/theories to support their views (e.g. Gender, Man vs Women - bang on about Tannen, Lakoff, Cameron etc)
4. Your opinion - are they talking ********? Theories, research to suggest other wise to support your views
Hope this helps


That sounds spot on to me. The examiners want you to engage with the topic on the discourses section and they're *not* trying to trip you up. Honest!

They want you to look like you know something more than the writers of the (non-specialist) texts and have something to say about the opinions being offered. Anyone that has a good go at it will get some credit, provided they/you have some subject knowledge.
Reply 70
guinness_buddy
Dan Clayton's predictions (a senior examiner) are that it'll be attitudes towards texting, so if it's this you'll need to bring in the standard prescriptive/descriptive arguments, along with your own opinions too.



That's just a prediction and I honestly don't know (if I did, AQA would have to kill me) so please don't think I know something you don't about the paper! It's just an educated guess based on the old ENA6 papers and how they tended to cover big debates about language and which ones might be good for discussion.

I've been wrong before and it's probably best to assume it'll be something much less obvious.
Reply 71
Liv--
I would of thought that Labov and Cheshire were more variation as they're on about social pressures and prestige..

Compounding etc.. is all processes of change, sort of if you look at an old text and see the word gay, meaning happy, it now means bad - perjoration

SW hypothesis dicates that Language controls our thoughts, so racist words are deemed bad so we think bad of race we're talking about. So It links to PC because PC aims to change our thoughts of the word "retard to Special" for example. Pc changes our thoughts by basically banning bad words i.e. changing our words.
make anymore sense?


Thank you! :grin:
Ah right ok, so what are the theories for change? :eek3:
and thanks for clearing up that on Sapir Whorf, makes sense when ya put it like that :p:
Reply 72
Cutiek8i
Thank you! :grin:
Ah right ok, so what are the theories for change? :eek3:
and thanks for clearing up that on Sapir Whorf, makes sense when ya put it like that :p:


Language change theories:

Language determinism (basically SW) and reflectionism

Lexical gaps

Random fluctuation and cultural transmission

Substratum Theory,

Functional Theory

Wave and S- curve models

Hope that helps!
Reply 73
only_sophie
This website is fantastic!! Thank you so much!! I'm gonna sneak some good revision in from this site before tomorrow! I am soo scared about this exam, I've done next to no preparation, and my teacher wasn't the best, she didn't really go into much detail... and my teacher last year... well don't even go there.. Lol, I learnt nothing!!

How is everyone else feeling about tomorrow? Does anyone know the grade boundaries for tomorrows exam? :eek:

Thanks!
Sophie!


I am so in the same boat as you! I dont think i'll sleep well tonight! I'm that nervous!!

Well the marks are out 90 in the paper so i'm guessing that 72/90 is an A grade (=80%) 63/90 is a B 54/90 is a C

So to get an A you need to get 36/45 in each question at the least (to be on the safe side!)
I'm completely guessing based on the percentages!
Hope that helps
Reply 74
This thread has been so helpful! Although my teacher way terrible and i have no idea what the wave theory, s-curve theory, random fluctuation etctheories are?!?

Please could someone give me a summary of what each of them are so i can quickly learn them before tomorrow? would be much appreciated! :smile:
Liv--
I am so in the same boat as you! I dont think i'll sleep well tonight! I'm that nervous!!

Well the marks are out 90 in the paper so i'm guessing that 72/90 is an A grade (=80%) 63/90 is a B 54/90 is a C

So to get an A you need to get 36/45 in each question at the least (to be on the safe side!)
I'm completely guessing based on the percentages!
Hope that helps

I think the boundaries change every exam season (depending on how hard the paper is), but the Jan paper's boundaries were: A=73 (81%) B=62 (69%) C=52 (58%) D=42 (47%) E=32 (36%). Depending on how everyone else does, it could be higher/lower for some grades
Reply 76
also, what is this 'damp spoon' and 'crumbling castle' thing?
gemmeh
also, what is this 'damp spoon' and 'crumbling castle' thing?

They're theories about language change in much the same way as random fluctuation, substratum and functional theory. The really interesting thing about those three metaphorical models for the prescriptive attitudes is that Jean Aitchison was being satirical during her lecture, and was literally mocking the prescriptive attitudes. This is the exact reason why they have ridiculous-sounding names.

The Damp Spoon model highlights the apparent laziness and sloppiness over the ways language changes - such as dropping apostrophes and the subjunctive (basically all prescriptivists see change as negative). It's called this because it's similar to the laziness Aitchison felt when a damp spoon was put back into a sugar bowl.

The Crumbling Castle view treats English as a beautiful, pristine, ornate building that must be preserved. Any change would be like letting the castle fall to ruin. The issue is that the language has to have been at a 'perfect' state at some point. We all know this is trash, as standardisation never fully set down 'rules' (Latin rules, so again, trash) until 300 years ago.

The Infectious Disease model sees language change as an infection that people can unwittingly catch, in much the same way that floating germs spread disease. The issue with this is that people change their langauge use because they want to use the changed meanings, in order to fit in etc. In defense of the model however, it functions in much the same way as the bull's eye theory, which is also really interesting.

You can tell I'm a massive descriptivist, but hopefully that's made things a little clearer. Best wishes for tomorrow!
Reply 78
Mikei
You could talk about recent studies at the University of Coventry (by Clare Wood) , that texting actually requires the same phonological awareness as writing or reading in standard english. You can talk about how texting can be seen as inclusive device to certain social groups (e.g youth) and it is engrained within youth culture today . You can speak about how it is functionally necessary to have a type of shorthand english due to technological advance (i.e mobile phones) < this could lead to a wider debate about globalisation - you could mention the fact that communities are a lot more interconnected through technology such as texting etc. Then you could bring in prescriptivist attitudes (just basically saying how texting is bad) , i personally would bring in Jean Aitchison's model of 'the damp spoon' and 'crumbling castle' here and maybe bring in the fact that text language could be seen as a cryptolect/anti-language by excluding some of access to it. With the two items to refer to , there should be quite a bit to write about :o:


Thanks for this! :smile:

One question i'm a bit confused about, in the section B bit, we still need to analysis the linguistic features of the text don't we?? :confused:
Reply 79
gemmeh
also, what is this 'damp spoon' and 'crumbling castle' thing?


They're both precriptivist viewpoints.
Damp spoon - People are getting lazy with their language like putting a 'damp spoon in a sugar bowl' instead of a clean one. Aitchson says the only lazy speech is drunk speech where the muscles in your mouth are uncoordinated. Basically the idea that slang is lazy.

Crumbling castle - just a metaphor that states that the english language is like a ancient 'castle' that needs to be preserved - basically rules should be inflicted to keep this "high status"

Make any sense?

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