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Reply 1
Me!
My friends took breakthrough Japanese last year and got level 3s (top).
Then myself and those friends took Preliminary Spanish this year and got 6s (top)
:biggrin:

You, OP?
Woo, that's so cool!
I started learning Japanese, and then opted for a different club on at the same time, but definitely intend to pick it up again some time! :woo:

Haha, I can't even remember.
I'll have a look on my certificates now :biggrin:

Turns out I got grades 12 in French and Spanish reading, grade 11 in Spanish writing and grade 10 in French listening.
I did also sit French writing in February, but my school hasn't told me what I got yet :p:
Reply 3
It was a really good opportunity, it was just something that I took to boost my qualifications/UCAS as it didn't take long or much effort because I love languages anyway.

I really wish I'd done Japanese, you really need to get back in to it! :smile:

Well done on those grades, they're great.
I think that's like the equivalent of Advanced Subsidiary level, no?
Either way, I'd think you're about as fluent in French as I am, I did it at A-level and going on to uni.
Good luck for when the school get back to you!
Justeen910
It was a really good opportunity, it was just something that I took to boost my qualifications/UCAS as it didn't take long or much effort because I love languages anyway.

I really wish I'd done Japanese, you really need to get back in to it! :smile:

Well done on those grades, they're great.
I think that's like the equivalent of Advanced Subsidiary level, no?
Either way, I'd think you're about as fluent in French as I am, I did it at A-level and going on to uni.
Good luck for when the school get back to you!


I think it works out as something like one-third of an A Level at grade B in French and half an AS at C in Spanish or something ... it's a funny system! :biggrin:

I also sat the proficiency level French reading exam this summer, which is quite funny because it's supposedly first year undergraduate level, and I only did French to GCSE :biggrin:
So I'm sure that the degree to which the two sets of qualifications correspond is limited :nodots:

Oh wow, so you're quite the French person? :smile:
Might I ask whether you do any other languages?
Did you find that doing assets actually helped your UCAS, or was just better in a general academic sense?
To be honest, I don't think they helped me get into uni at all, but then again I was applying for things completely unrelated to languages so that might be why!

I thought they were just pretty nice, and I love getting certificates for things because I'm epically sad :yep:
placenta medicae talpae
Has anyone ever done any of the asset languages qualifications?
Which ones - and what grade did you get? :smile:


I did Breakthrough Mandarin, I got Level 3 reading/writing/speaking and a level 2 listening.

It was quite good, but I can only remember odd bits here and there.
jimcatinnes
I did Breakthrough Mandarin, I got Level 3 reading/writing/speaking and a level 2 listening.

It was quite good, but I can only remember odd bits here and there.


That's cool - how much work did you do for breakthrough, might I ask?
For example, did it take 6 months of studying about a couple of hours per week?
Reply 7
placenta medicae talpae
I think it works out as something like one-third of an A Level at grade B in French and half an AS at C in Spanish or something ... it's a funny system! :biggrin:

I also sat the proficiency level French reading exam this summer, which is quite funny because it's supposedly first year undergraduate level, and I only did French to GCSE :biggrin:
So I'm sure that the degree to which the two sets of qualifications correspond is limited :nodots:

Oh wow, so you're quite the French person? :smile:
Might I ask whether you do any other languages?
Did you find that doing assets actually helped your UCAS, or was just better in a general academic sense?
To be honest, I don't think they helped me get into uni at all, but then again I was applying for things completely unrelated to languages so that might be why!

I thought they were just pretty nice, and I love getting certificates for things because I'm epically sad :yep:


Oh gosh that is a silly system! So confusing :s-smilie:
Urgh no, I'll be sitting that exam soon then. That's odd they gave you that, it must have felt a bit weird reading it
Aha, me, French? I just love languages really, it's the only think I'm any good at so I stuck with it. I only speak French as a foreign language, well and a little Spanish.
In all honesty, I don't think they helped my UCAS. It just showed the universities that I was interested in languages, which should have been pretty obvious anyway. UCAS-wise, it did bob all, because the level wasn't high enough to attain UCAS points... :mad:
It would have helped you, it would have shown that you're versatile!

I agree, they're lovely little qualifications that you can just pick up on your way :smile:
Reply 8
whats an asset languages qualifications sounds interesting!
placenta medicae talpae
That's cool - how much work did you do for breakthrough, might I ask?
For example, did it take 6 months of studying about a couple of hours per week?


I went to evening classes every monday after 6th form from 7-9pm.
I have to say that I did not work as hard as I should/could have, and just crammed for the exams, learning sentences that I could just parrot out. But I think that the reason I crammed was because I thought I could use pinyin, but it turned out I had to do it in characters, so I panicked.

What language are you planning to do?
jimcatinnes
I went to evening classes every monday after 6th form from 7-9pm.
I have to say that I did not work as hard as I should/could have, and just crammed for the exams, learning sentences that I could just parrot out. But I think that the reason I crammed was because I thought I could use pinyin, but it turned out I had to do it in characters, so I panicked.

What language are you planning to do?


Oh wow, it must have taken quite a bit of dedication just turning up!
Yeah, I crammed quite a bit too.
I think by far the easiest ones are the reading ones, since they're always very general (and you can always guess any specialist vocab they might use), and the answers are usually somewhere in front of you :woo:

Is Pinyin a computer system for churning out characters?
I love the languages bar on the computer, to write completely random things like てますちにらい and then pretend that you 'know what it means' aha :smile:
I was doing AS French in year 11 but our teacher said that seeing as everyone else in our year was being entered for either intermediate or advanced in French or German, we might as well be entered for the advanced to see what happened. Did the mock reading & listening, and got level 12s in both. When it came to the real thing however, I got a level 11 in listening & a U in reading, probably because I guessed most of the answers (the topics were so random and there were words I didn't understand!).

I got a B in my AS so it made up for the disappointment of getting a U in one of my Assets :biggrin:
Justeen910
Oh gosh that is a silly system! So confusing :s-smilie:
Urgh no, I'll be sitting that exam soon then. That's odd they gave you that, it must have felt a bit weird reading it
Aha, me, French? I just love languages really, it's the only think I'm any good at so I stuck with it. I only speak French as a foreign language, well and a little Spanish.
In all honesty, I don't think they helped my UCAS. It just showed the universities that I was interested in languages, which should have been pretty obvious anyway. UCAS-wise, it did bob all, because the level wasn't high enough to attain UCAS points... :mad:
It would have helped you, it would have shown that you're versatile!

I agree, they're lovely little qualifications that you can just pick up on your way :smile:


It's pretty much to do with UCAS points - I think it's something like 25 for each grade 12, 18 for a grade 11 and 11 for a grade 10 - I might be wrong.
But it means that, for example, four grades 12 is equivalent to a B at A Level, since they're both worth 100 UCAS points! :woo:

Ooh nice, so are you into any other kinds of languages than MFLs then, like older forms of English, ancient languages, or made-up languages - or even nonsense? :biggrin:

Yay, I think they're lovely little things too - and if I have to take a gap year, I'll do as many languages to like grade 9 as I can! :cool:
Reply 13
Anyone here going to study modern languages at university?
Also, this asset course sounds interesting! What is it?
BlueSheep32
I was doing AS French in year 11 but our teacher said that seeing as everyone else in our year was being entered for either intermediate or advanced in French or German, we might as well be entered for the advanced to see what happened. Did the mock reading & listening, and got level 12s in both. When it came to the real thing however, I got a level 11 in listening & a U in reading, probably because I guessed most of the answers (the topics were so random and there were words I didn't understand!).

I got a B in my AS so it made up for the disappointment of getting a U in one of my Assets :biggrin:


Oh, that's a pretty neat idea actually!
Guessing can sometimes be the thing to do - well, for the multiple choice questions anyway! :biggrin:

I found the French advanced listening utterly solid, and came out with a 10, the lowest possible grade.
The speed of it was just immense, and I couldn't cipher out what they were saying - I didn't realise that they must talk so much more slowly than usual on the GCSE exams! :biggrin:

Yeah, there are sometimes very random topics ~
On my last one, there was a whole question about CCTV :dontknow:
Yet the only bit of specialist vocab which couldn't be worked out by sight was 'le fichage', which became pretty apparent as the text went on.
I guess that kind of thing is just luck - but I've never sat an asset paper with loads of unfathomable language myself.
heathervc
Anyone here going to study modern languages at university?
Also, this asset course sounds interesting! What is it?


misssmarty
whats an asset languages qualifications sounds interesting!


They're pretty cool modern foreign languages units which can be taken in many, many different ways at loads of different points throughout the year.

All the languages you'd expect are offered, but there are also quirky ones in the mix - I think you can even do Cornish! :rolleyes:

They are graded from grade 1 to grade 17 (I think), with grade 9 being roughly GCSE standard, 12 A(S) standard, and anything higher than that being supposedly like doing a tiny unit at degree level.

It's usual to do them in certain specific skills (speaking, listening, reading, writing), and few centres offer speaking since there is training and extra costs for this.
These can be done internally or externally usually (except for post-grade 12 I think), and there are lots of checks done on the internally-assessed exams).
Yet some candidates will want to do all four skills at, say, advanced level (grades 10 to 12), and there is a certificate for this, and it makes it a bit more like doing a normal languages qualification.
placenta medicae talpae
Is Pinyin a computer system for churning out characters?
Pinyin's the standard system for phonetically transliterating Chinese into the Roman alphabet -- apparently pinyin means "spell-sound" in Chinese. The guy who devised it is 105 years old, which I know only because I read that Stephen Fry's going to be interviewing him on a forthcoming series of programmes about language for the BBC.

That's the limit of my useless knowledge about such things, I'm afraid. :biggrin:

By the way, is this a thing that's offered at your school (in terms of the teaching), Talp? Or is it external?
jismith1989
Pinyin's the standard system for phonetically transliterating Chinese into the Roman alphabet -- apparently pinyin means "spell-sound" in Chinese. The guy who devised it is 105 years, which I know only because I read that Stephen Fry's going to be interviewing him on a forthcoming series of programmes about language for the BBC.

Tht's the limit of my useless knowledge about such things, I'm afraid. :biggrin:


Ooh, that is cool beans.
I guess it's good to learn using the original characters, but when there are so many characters and it takes ages to get used to any patterns etc, it must be a pretty dispiriting way to start off! :woo:

And ... be very afraid! :ninja:
placenta medicae talpae
Oh, that's a pretty neat idea actually!
Guessing can sometimes be the thing to do - well, for the multiple choice questions anyway! :biggrin:

I found the French advanced listening utterly solid, and came out with a 10, the lowest possible grade.
The speed of it was just immense, and I couldn't cipher out what they were saying - I didn't realise that they must talk so much more slowly than usual on the GCSE exams! :biggrin:

Yeah, there are sometimes very random topics ~
On my last one, there was a whole question about CCTV :dontknow:
Yet the only bit of specialist vocab which couldn't be worked out by sight was 'le fichage', which became pretty apparent as the text went on.
I guess that kind of thing is just luck - but I've never sat an asset paper with loads of unfathomable language myself.


We got one paper with a question about seagulls in Belgium, taxi drivers in Niger & bears in Quebec (at least I think it was, anyway). I agree that multiple choice exams are fantastic for that reason, I just think I made the wrong guesses on the day and was a bit unlucky...never mind.

The listening tapes in French can be stupidly fast, and because the French are so nasal it makes it even harder to understand things sometimes. Asset was definitely the hardest listening exam I'd ever done.

Our listening mock was quite hilarious - we didn't have any time to do it in lessons (we had 2 hours a week for our AS as opposed to the usual 4 and a half we would get for an AS subject at our school) so our French assistant recorded the transcript for the questions and gave us all a copy of the tape so we could do it at home. Hearing her say "This is the O C Air Advanced Asset Listening exam in French" and putting on different voices for the different people was really funny, considering she was one of the most humourless people I'd met in a while - she hated anything that wasn't French and refused to speak more slowly even when we asked her.
BlueSheep32
We got one paper with a question about seagulls in Belgium, taxi drivers in Niger & bears in Quebec (at least I think it was, anyway). I agree that multiple choice exams are fantastic for that reason, I just think I made the wrong guesses on the day and was a bit unlucky...never mind.

The listening tapes in French can be stupidly fast, and because the French are so nasal it makes it even harder to understand things sometimes. Asset was definitely the hardest listening exam I'd ever done.

Our listening mock was quite hilarious - we didn't have any time to do it in lessons (we had 2 hours a week for our AS as opposed to the usual 4 and a half we would get for an AS subject at our school) so our French assistant recorded the transcript for the questions and gave us all a copy of the tape so we could do it at home. Hearing her say "This is the O C Air Advanced Asset Listening exam in French" and putting on different voices for the different people was really funny, considering she was one of the most humourless people I'd met in a while - she hated anything that wasn't French and refused to speak more slowly even when we asked her.


Oh! - bears sounds like a familiar topic actually ...
I remember one about ski-lifts and that seemed pretty random, but really it was all about the weather, ice and global warming! :cool:
The hardest task I've done is probably writing a short horror story in French - that was ... murder ... :p:

Have you ever listened to 13/20h on tf1.fr?
Until then, I actually didn't know what speed was :eek:

Hehe, imagine holding a French person's nose ...
Actually that'd be cruel :biggrin:

Lol, my sister's old English teacher used to know Rosemarie, the person who did the announcing on tapes for AQA ... oh the funny things that went on there.
When they did the long 'beep' for any questions on the mental maths tapes, we always used to 'swear' silently at each other like they do on TV :woo:

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