What would a Union Jack without Scotland look like?

I came up with a few ideas a while back for a flag with Wales in it, actually. I even made a slideshow for ya

http://img594.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=englandniwales4.jpg

The first three would probably be alright if we had to pick a new one should Scotland secede.

And we should do it anyway. I mean who doesn't want a ****ing dragon on the flag?

As Bob Dylan once said, the times are a-changing, and so we might have to consider some unusual possibilities. For one, Scotland seceding from the UK is definitely on the cards - it might not happen, yes, but what if it did? Would the Union Jack have to be edited to accurately represent the new sum of its parts?

I certainly think it would, although previous attempts to edit the flag to include Wales has never been very successful. In theory the dragon on the Union Jack would be quite inspirational, but it just doesn't look right in my opinion. It's even worse if you try cramming some yellow and black in there too, representing the flag of St. David.

I've come to the conclusion that the most logical form for the flag would be to simply colour the blue on the flag in black, as in this image:



I don't think that looks too shabby, does it?

To put it simply - the black would represent the Welsh, the red saltire is of course representative of the Northern Irish (that may be up for debate) and the St. George's cross would represent England. I think it'd be the most practical way of doing things - it means that all of the Union Jack merchandise only needs 1 quick colour change, after all.

I'm genuinely interested to see if anyone can come up with something interesting to represent a new Union Jack without Scotland. I invite you to share them with us in this thread.

Union Flag.

Pedants will reign supreme :P

I like number 4, however black instead of a blue background like the OP suggests.

The dragon shouldn't appear twice...

But but but . . . moar dragons . . .

How can we speed us this process?

There's 50 million English. Why do we need anything different for the sake of 3 million people (going by the notion that Northern Ireland has a red cross with a hand in the centre, so they'd identify with the red cross).

Sein Fein can have Northern Ireland. I'd whole heartedly love to see them try and subsidise them to the level that England can.

sinn fein can go toss themselves if they take over NI, I'm moving for sure

Not that I hate Northern Ireland, but if they (Sein Fein) are complaining about England 'controlling' it.......

That flag reminds me of the thing norsefire had in v for vendetta o.0

Yeah it does:-



I can't work out from the film though whether this flag represents the entire United Kingdom or just England. I assumed it was the entire UK, but in the film they constantly mention England, like such as the Norsefire slogan, 'England Prevails'. Hmm, I don't know.

Which other national flag in the UK has a horizontal/vertical red cross?

why you want us Northern Irish to leave? we're perfectly happy were we are (well, I am )

sinn fein can go toss themselves if they take over NI, I'm moving for sure

then they need to build a bridge and get over it

SF seriously need to get the Hell out of NI

Not that I hate Northern Ireland, but if they (Sein Fein) are complaining about England 'controlling' it.......