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TSR Christian Society (X-SOC) Episode IV: A New Hope

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I found my book... :awesome:

Milton Jones

Christianity is like a Cornish pastie. There's something in it, but sometimes it's difficult to find out what it is exactly.
Christianity is like knitting. Basically good, but appears to be responsible for a lot of bad things.

People like Jesus because he hung around with drunks and prostitutes. So how come when I do that...?

The word 'gospel' means good news. But today it's more a type of music. So when Jesus said we should go into all the world and preach the gospel he didn't mean we had to dress up as Aretha Franklin. I know that now.

Once I had a really good book about forgiveness. But I lent it to a friend and they lost it. They're not my friend any more.

and possibly my favourite:

Milton Jones

Christians sometimes shout 'Once I was dead but now I'm alive!' But then so do zombies.

Reply 421

The_Lonely_Goatherd

Original post by chickenonsteroids

I got an offer of accommodation at UCL :biggrin:

but they sent me a blank document it seems. Woo.

oh rite, it's meant to be blank. Thanks UCL for making me look stupid. Good thing I didn't email them about it.

PRSOM

Reply 422

greeneyedgirl

Original post by Feefifofum

I agree too, though we don't really know what these people are like, just their public personas... It's true that it involves a lot of sin though. I have a lot more respect for musicians like the Civil Wars, who live Christian lives and even included a worship song on their latest album :smile:

That's one of the things I love about Mumford and Sons, if you listen to their songs they are littered with great Christian imagery and stuff and they seem to be leading Christian lives from what you can see. Plus their music is just awesome in general :yep:

Reply 423

IMakeSenseToNone

Original post by Aula

I found my book... :awesome:

Ohmygoodnesshe'sjustsowonderful :ahee:

Seeing we're on the subject, Tim Vine talking about Comedy and Religion: http://www.4thought.tv/themes/is-anything-sacred-in-comedy/tim-vine

Reply 424

Aula

Original post by IMakeSenseToNone

Ohmygoodnesshe'sjustsowonderful :ahee:

Seeing we're on the subject, Tim Vine talking about Comedy and Religion: http://www.4thought.tv/themes/is-anything-sacred-in-comedy/tim-vine

Apparently Milton Jones has written a second book of 10 second sermons. I now need to try and find this...

Reply 425

Diety

Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd

Really sorry to hear about this, especially that he didn't make it for your nan's 80th. Will be praying for the whole family. I'm glad at least though that this gave an opening to chat honestly to your mum about your faith :hugs:

Thanks TLG :hugs:

Original post by IMakeSenseToNone

Ooh, very impressive <3 Sadly all I know comes from the song 'Baba Yetu'which is the Lord's Prayer in Swahili. Christopher Tin/The Swahili Gospel choir do a wonderful rendition of it:

[video="youtube;IJiHDmyhE1A"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A[/video]

Wow, I love that :biggrin:

I found this version the best

just because of the pictures :smile:

amazing how it's just the Lord's Prayer! Although, everything sounds great in Swahili :h:

I have a few videos on my Facebook of the kids singing Swahili songs in Church, assembly, and even Swahili ten green bottles around the camp-fire :biggrin:

Really sorry to hear it man :hugs:

It's weird though as mum said something very similiar when Grandad died all those years back, there's something weirdly restful about a body once the person has passed away.

I've never experienced it myself but maybe it is a common experience people have then.

Ha, why thank you, it's a relief to hear. I think he's probably the only philospher or theologian that I could make my mastermind subject so it would be bad if I couldn't even detail his ideas on the individual and self :tongue:

I don't know If I know that much about any particular philosopher/theologian... Might take a stab at St Augustine... and if you count C.S. Lewis I would be all over that :biggrin:

Haha I guess we know different ones then, I seem to only know the extremes like the conservatives who think everyone else is evil and the liberals who think everyone else is stupid.

You know liberal Chrstians like that? Wow, I've only ever met one liberal Christian, My Philosophy teacher who is the nicest, most 'Christlike' man I have ever known!

It is certainly interesting although I find the lack of mysticism in the religion to be the main turn-off for me. Everything is awfully literal in it.

Hmmm, I never thought of Mormonism like that, but I suppose it is actually...

I guess inerrancy would have been a better term :smile:

I used to believe it was more God working within the society established (it's a fairly held belief among those who believe in inerrancy) and making the fairest laws out of them but know the idea of Him comprising like that doesn't make much sense to me.

Hmmm, I don't really think God compromised in working in that way; the OT achieved what it was meant to by acting as a foundation and a backdrop for the drama of the gospels and the rest of Christian history. I actually quite like the fact that in the inspiration of scripture, we already begin to see the first glimmers of heaven; a union between man and God in inspiration revealing the end goal of union between man and God. It's as though the invitation is written with the first act of the union to which we are being invited :smile:

Would you prefer revelation having been direct and 'Qur'an-style' so to speak?

Man I wish I had a creative brain which allowed me to think in analogies like that, it's much easier to engage people with ideas that away but alas inane ramblings with oddly placed comas are more my style it seems :tongue:

That analogy about the ship wasn't even mine :tongue:

analogies were forced on me in a way by studying philosophy where the method of writing every paragraph is: point > explain > illustrate (with an analogy) > evaluate. So you have to use A LOT of analogies :biggrin:

I guess you could say that something like Psalms is divinely inspired in the way that good art and poetry is but they're all going to be through the medium of the individual who created it which is the main diffrentiator, afterall art would be boring if it wasn't :h:

I quite agree with that :smile:

Any time, it's the summer holidays, I need things to do so it was a pleasure :^_^:

Anything to take the mind of college results and all that.

Ah yes; tomorrow is the day of our impending doom! :eek:

Yeah, I think it was the 1860-ish when the idea (or atleast the term) of homosexuality came about as until then you were assumed straight and anything else was just you being perverse. And thanks for the articles! The more the merrier.

You are most welcome :smile:

Original post by Mazzini

Hope you're okay. Glad to hear that you talked to your mum about your faith :hugs:

If you don't mind me asking, was your grandad Christian or not? :hugs:

I'm fine thanks Mazz :h:

He was really a cultural Anglican who I think did believe in God, but only went to Church on special occasions like Christmas.

Original post by Alice_95

Will be praying for you :hugs:

Thanks Alice :hugs:

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Reply 426

The_Lonely_Goatherd

Praying for all those receiving results tomorrow! :yep:

Reply 427

IMakeSenseToNone

Original post by Diety

just because of the pictures :smile:

amazing how it's just the Lord's Prayer! Although, everything sounds great in Swahili :h:

I have a few videos on my Facebook of the kids singing Swahili songs in Church, assembly, and even Swahili ten green bottles around the camp-fire :biggrin:

The whole album is pretty wonderful, it's thing like poetry, chants and songs from around the world. And that also sounds like the cutest thing in the world x3

I don't know If I know that much about any particular philosopher/theologian... Might take a stab at St Augustine... and if you count C.S. Lewis I would be all over that :biggrin:

I once got a question right on University Challenge about Kant, proudest moment of my life and then I realised it was also pretty much the most basic question they could have asked on him. St Augustine is a massive blind spot for me, mostly because i'm an idiot and always confuse him for Aquinas. I think you could probably call Lewis a theologian though I would say he was a Christian Apologist first and foremost, what he says is more reactionary than anything ala Chesterton. If I could choose anyone I would like a really in-depth knowledge of Pascal and Derrida, mostly as they're pretty impenetrable to start with.

Hmmm, I never thought of Mormonism like that, but I suppose it is actually...

Well I guess when we are literally the sons and daughters of God and Jesus is the literal son as well, you lessen the mystery and awe of the Bible I find. I think there's interesting things in there but all I've talked to think the Bible is inerrant and I find John rather hard to understand if we take their view of the Godhead. Generally pretty darn nice people though.

Would you prefer revelation having been direct and 'Qur'an-style' so to speak?

Not really as we got that in the NT through Jesus and if the Bible was too obvious I probably wouldn't have got into it in the first place :tongue:

It does indeed work as a backdrop as other wise his teachings would be the insane ramblings of a crazy person as they wouldn't have the tradition to draw off but when the laws are quite so sexist and demeaning towards certain individuals I find it hard to believe that God would be entirely okay with it. Hence why i'm somewhat inclined to believe he set out the Ten Commandments but the others in places such as Leviticus are mostly man-made, although I still need to completely think out my position.

That analogy about the ship wasn't even mine :tongue:

Oh don't worry, I knew it wasn't yours :smile:

Philosophy and literature are much better taught through analogies but I fear all mind will use analogies which are so niche I would have to write analogies for my analogies xD

Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd

Praying for all those receiving results tomorrow! :yep:

All the best to everyone :yep:

I actually had a nightmare about mine last night where the college couldn't find my results so that was.... not foreboding in anyway :erm:

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Reply 428

sherbet_lemons7

Just to echo what TLG said- good luck for tomorrow people! :grouphugs:

Am praying. :yep:

Reply 429

Mazzini

Original post by Diety

I'm fine thanks Mazz :h:

He was really a cultural Anglican who I think did believe in God, but only went to Church on special occasions like Christmas.

Ah okay. Glad to hear you're okay :hugs:

Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd

Praying for all those receiving results tomorrow! :yep:

Thanks lovely. So nervous :eek3:

Original post by tasha96

Just to echo what TLG said- good luck for tomorrow people! :grouphugs:

Am praying. :yep:

Thanks m'dear :hugs:

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Reply 430

IMakeSenseToNone

I'm neverous yet I'm 90% confident of my grades, it's slightly pathetic.

Original post by Mazzini

Thanks lovely. So nervous :eek3:

What course are you hoping to get into mate? :3

Reply 431

OurSeaBee

So, the main points from the last couple of days are as follows:

Tim Vine is Christian
Milton Jones is Christian

Didn't know about that!

I am in Bristol again. At last, I have got easy access to an Orthodox church!

Wishing you all a happy Feast of the Dormition.

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Reply 432

AtomicTheory

I'd really appreciate prayers at the moment. Having really bad money problems, can't move home/get any help from my family, and just have no ****ing clue what to do, basically.

Reply 433

Alice_95

Original post by AtomicTheory

I'd really appreciate prayers at the moment. Having really bad money problems, can't move home/get any help from my family, and just have no ****ing clue what to do, basically.

Will be praying for you :smile:

Reply 434

Stiff Little Fingers

So I don't get that interview with Cullum afterall - turned out the slot scheduled for was Hylands park and my pass is for weston park :hmpf:

Reply 435

The_Lonely_Goatherd

Original post by AtomicTheory

I'd really appreciate prayers at the moment. Having really bad money problems, can't move home/get any help from my family, and just have no ****ing clue what to do, basically.

Really sorry to hear that. Will be praying :sadnod:

Original post by Stiff Little Fingers

So I don't get that interview with Cullum afterall - turned out the slot scheduled for was Hylands park and my pass is for weston park :hmpf:

Reply 436

Mimir

For all result-ees...
May you have received grades which will help you persue the end that will make you happy. Even if that means you have to stress in the short term to arrive at the course or institution you desire, things have a way of working out.

For those who used his intercession - font forget to thank St Joseph of Cupertino and make him known. A happy feast of the Assumption to you all.

Congratulations on finishing your A-Levels, it's quite an achievement just to survive!

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Reply 437

IMakeSenseToNone

Just got this :biggrin:

"Congratulations. This letter confirms your place and any agreed changes at The University of Manchester for the Mental Health Nursing yadda yadda ya".

And now to be incredibly stressed out for the next few years :yep:

May go and see the Alan Partridge film to celebrate, help stop the fact my hands are still shaking.

Original post by AtomicTheory

I'd really appreciate prayers at the moment. Having really bad money problems, can't move home/get any help from my family, and just have no ****ing clue what to do, basically.

Sorry to hear it, be praying mate :hugs:

Reply 438

The_Lonely_Goatherd

Original post by IMakeSenseToNone

Just got this :biggrin:

May go and see the Alan Partridge film to celebrate, help stop the fact my hands are still shaking

Nice work - well done! :biggrin:

Reply 439

IMakeSenseToNone

Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd

Nice work - well done! :biggrin:

Thank ye, I could barely open the bleedin' letter my hands were shakin' so much, although it was cold so i'll make that my excuse :tongue:

Best mate got into a Uni which is only a train ride away so we'll be able to go out together in the weekend still instead of seeing each other only once a year, so it's a blessed day all around =)

Hope everyone else's results day went well and to all those celebrating have a happy feast of Assumption and Dormition :yep: