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Is it just me or are guys under just as much pressure as women

Im not one of the woman bashers that are frequent on here , I'm attempting to make genuine points and not leaving the blame completely at womens doors

Numerous feminists (e.g Naomi Woolfs The Beauty Myth )and women in general are overly vocal about the surreal expectations they are subjected to in the media and every day life to look good . I admit women do go through a hard time , generally they are under pressure every day to look good and some wont even leave the house without make up.

Yet i cant help but feel their male counterparts are ignored and dismissed as "having it easy" .

The media also works to mens detriment.

These days your expected to have a muscular physique , i'd go as far to argue its even becoming the norm for men to be hench . Gyms are overflowing , the massive popularity of the bb forum , the pressure for adolescent males to get muscular to attract women etc

Role Models - Your expected to act a certain way to get with women , in shows such as Californication , Mad Men , Community etc Men are promiscuous , manipulative and generally treat women like dirt . Hence men are taught unless you act this way you will generally fail in the dating game , this is why you see so many jerks who are willing to sleep with numerous women without a pang of guilt , because thats what they think it means to be a man. Ironically these types of men have the most success with women , who think they can tame "the wild stallion" and change him .

The pick up community only compliments this theory , the pressure to conform to societal standards has led to the development of men with a paradigm akin to James Bond or something , that women are little less then objects and will fall to the same lines , psychology or manipulaton.

Looks - Aesthetic features such as cheek bones and even beards to an extent have become idolized , there are also plenty of prominent male models who have god like features i.e Gandy . Unlike women who are able to loose weight and use face paint to emulate celebrities and models , men are almost helpless to change their circumstances . Even if you have a good physique , facial features are a must. Guys who lack these such as myself will adopt fatalistic outlooks on their chances in the dating game and feel inadequate.

Financial expectations - Despite the fact that feminists have changed the world for the better , helping women to occupy higher up positions in society and rear girls for more promising occupations , the male gender role of the breadwinner has remained the same . If you want any hope with a woman its pretty much compulsory you earn more then her , by her gifts etc despite the fact she is an able bodied being with a job. Though men might be superficial , we arent shallow enough to rule out a partner because of her salary . Deny it all you will but if a man doesnt earn enough a woman will lose attraction.

Expected to have the wit of Oscar Wilde , the puns of a stand up comedian , able to make her laugh whenever she is down , dominate the conversation and always be happy . All men really ask for is that you look nice .

Its likely due to these factors men (who arent 9/10s with opulent salaries ) will eventually give up on women , either resort to living off porn like the "herbivores"in Japan or reject society completely a la Ellot Rodgers (wasnt the first and likely wont be the last)

Reply 1

blueskyblue

Original post by mastermdc

It's just you

Did you even read ?

nah

Bump . would be nice to have some constructive posts please

Reply 4

+ polarity -

Yeah I think so, Tyger Drew Honey had a few interesting programmes about this actually

Reply 5

Sanctimonious

People place far too much pressure on themselves. I do not care or conform to what society wants. I wear a shirt, tie, trousers and shoes because I'm comfortable in it and it looks smart in my opinion.

Reply 6

karmacrunch

Why can't we accept that everyone is experiencing pressure in different aspects of their lives? No gender experiences more than each other, it might seem like it but in different areas it all adds up to being equal. :/

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 7

Wattsy

Yeah they are but they don't have a outlet and collective to whinge about it like the girls have in feminism. They try to rise to the challenges and confront the hurdles put in front of them; most if not all not called Dan Bilzerian will fail to get henny, rich, funny, and good looking all at the same time if at all, maybe they'll achieve none, maybe they'll nail down 3 of them.They've got a lot less tools to achieve these things than the challenges which face girls: be attractive and don't be a total **** (the second may well go out of the window for some guys. They don't have warpaint to assist in the looking good, there's nothing to make them funnier, all they can do in getting richer is try and get a good job/seize initiative and take up some crazy self employed venture which has 1% success chance. And they can do nothing about their cheekbones without social stigma and probably looking weird or their dolphin-face without already being rich and undergoing strange surgery.

Bump

Original post by blueskyblue

Bump

Can we stop with the relentless bumping? If people don't want to talk about an issue they won't talk about it, bumping like this won't help.

Reply 10

WitnessMO

yeah, I think so too. Men nowadays are just as under pressure as women, to look good. However women, are often willing to trade off a certain percentages in looks, for a good personality and successful guy.