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Simply question what do you want in political terms?

I want to constrain the power of the government as an institutions, stop Liberalism and maintain the legacy of my ancestors.

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Reply 1
Power and prosperity for the UK. To deliver people's aspirations.
Original post by Rakas21
Power and prosperity for the UK. To deliver people's aspirations.


I see. How?
Reply 3
Original post by william walker

I want to constrain the power of the government as an institutions, stop Liberalism and maintain the legacy of my ancestors.


To what end do you want these things, exactly?

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Original post by RobML
To what end do you want these things, exactly?

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Maintain freedom, justice and liberty within the British nation state.
Reply 5
Original post by william walker
Maintain freedom, justice and liberty within the British nation state.


Then why oppose liberalism? Not to mention that traditional institutions are usually against these things

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Original post by RobML
Then why oppose liberalism? Not to mention that traditional institutions are usually against these things

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Because Liberals is all about freedom. To the detriment of Justice and Liberty. Also Liberalism is a lie, they just increase the power of the government. So Liberalism is a terrible thing.

No they are the ones who created the freedom, justice and liberty in the first place. As those things come from a power balance between institutions.
Well, ideally? I wish there were a way to eradicate Islam and Islamic culture. And I don't just mean in Europe, I mean everywhere: Malaysia, India, Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. I'd like it if they all renounced Islam or converted to some other religion like Christianity. I would like to see the Palestinians give up the disputed territory and leave Israel alone. I don't want any of them to die or suffer, I want them to change their beliefs.

When I read on Human Rights Watch about how badly Islamic countries treat their own people, I wished we could go in and stop their horrible policies and backwards lifestyle. But now I'm getting the impression that we aren't even strong enough to keep them from coming to Western countries and imposing that backwards and unfair way of life on us. It's a shame that the modern left demands tolerance of foreigners and their cultural values even when those values are harmful to society and against everything else they stand for.

It's fairly depressing.
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Original post by jeremy1988
Well, ideally? I wish there were a way to eradicate Islam and Islamic culture. And I don't just mean in Europe, I mean everywhere: Malaysia, India, Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. I'd like it if they all renounced Islam or converted to some other religion like Christianity. I would like to see the Palestinians give up the disputed territory and leave Israel alone. I don't want any of them to die or suffer, I want them to change their beliefs.

When I read on Human Rights Watch about how badly Islamic countries treat their own people, I wished we could go in and stop their horrible policies and backwards lifestyle. But now I'm getting the impression that we aren't even strong enough to keep them from coming to Western countries and imposing that backwards and unfair way of life on us. It's a shame that the modern left demands tolerance of foreigners and their cultural values even when those values are harmful to society and against everything else they stand for.

It's fairly depressing.


I actually think that we should have more policies like Islamic nations. Just coming from Protestantism. I rather wish we would leave Islamic nations alone rather trying to impose upon them Liberalism which I opposes and see as terrible.
The eradication of Capitalism and Statism through direct action and social revolution and the establishment of a worldwide society where the means of production are owned by the people and the fruits of human labour are owned collectively by everyone equally.
Original post by mojojojo101
The eradication of Capitalism and Statism through direct action and social revolution and the establishment of a worldwide society where the means of production are owned by the people and the fruits of human labour are owned collectively by everyone equally.


Why?
The world to stop manipulating others.
Chocolate, LOTS + LOTS OF CHOCOLATE. :puppyeyes:

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Original post by william walker
Simply question what do you want in political terms?

I want to constrain the power of the government as an institutions, stop Liberalism and maintain the legacy of my ancestors.


You should have fleshed out the OP much better and just explained what you wanted and why. I've noticed the two main problems with discussion in TSR is that people are too brief and ambiguous. A lot of people also don't lend enough time to thinking through their beliefs or the facts. If I believe x then where does it lead?

I'm on your side with giving power to more institutions at the top, and it would be very easy to do so. You need to explain why in the OP. Edit it instead of going in to it in later posts.






Anyway, let's talk about what I want:
I want the war against class to end. I want our politicians to stop cucking the country, defaming the nation, bringing it to its knees and financially collapsing it. I want Britain to stop going to war for foreign countries. I want Britain to have control of it's borders; absolute sovereignty and to leave NATO, UN and of course the EU. I would give legal powers to the Church of England over moral issues that are specifically religious by nature, e.g. marriage and divorce. Penalties can be crafted by the church elders and will be upheld by the justice and law. Voting rights will be removed from all of those who either don't have children or don't own a property over the value of 80k (today's prices). The House of Lords will be purely hereditary.

I would end welfare benefits for those who don't earn them, except the seriously permanently disabled (so @illegaltobepoor doesn't get mad at me; that's +1 vote to me already). This most especially is targeting single mothers who are able to collect child tax credits, which supports their degenerate ways of birthing a child with a man, then depriving that man of equal partnership with raising the child. That is bad for society and must end. The State should take control of transport such as roads, internal air travel, buses and trains. Scrap the NHS, which is forever underfunded and being run into the ground, and transfer the bulk of that money in to transport, subsidising heavily the fares. This has environmental benefits as well as keeping people together.

No state-support will go towards any foreigner's translator. They don't want to speak English, then the luxury of a translator should cost THEM, not us. I was forced to learn English as a baby, because I wanted to be understood. They should do the same. Tony Blair would be publicly hanged for war crimes and treason. Free speech and other libertarian ideas will be in law, greatly limiting the power of the State over the individual. Freedom of speech and right of assembly and free association mean conversations cannot be shut down. Hate speech laws will thusly be removed.

I'm also unsure as to whether I would scrap or keep the national curriculum, because it's infested currently with socialist left-wing rot which teaches people what to say rather than how to think. I think simply a new approach to education is required. Lessons like sociology, religious education and history will cease. If you want to take these classes, you must pay.

Science must be uncorrupted somehow from it's Post-Normal home. What science classes have become in schools now are one part science, one part economics, three parts morality and activism. We need to strip it down to the core if we're going to make it a respectable and valuable subject to make new leaders of innovation. The purpose of science is to innovate on tools we need. The Green industry is constantly enforced in science classes, with each three sub-topic in science going in depth on how bad carbon emissions are and global warming. The main problem is that children are taught to regurgitate facts that aren't solidly proven, and are given far too little tools to researching on their own.

Oh, one moooooore thing: nothing can come between the family. A child does not have the same rights as an adult, until they reach the age of eighteen. If a child is abused, the parents and family can come under shame, ostracisation from society and public scrutiny. They can't have their child taken away from them by the State. Each family must have it in their minds, for the sake of social capital, that they are solely responsible for the success and welfare of their children, giving them the incentive to treat them well and invest in their futures instead of this hedonism and self-indulgence we see now, whilst the children are left neglected at home. Don't worry, they say, the government will support my child through welfare and public schooling and cultural activities, they say, so I don't have to really talk to or teach my child a thing! Isn't socialism great, they say, it frees up so much time for me to pursue fun activities by myself. This is one of the most harmful ideas in society today, that the State has a responsibility superseding parents of their own children. The worst kind of tyranny is one where the state can seize children; the most successful tyranny is one in which parents happily give those children away.




Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything else. If anyone has questions, feel free to critique. I want to hear opinions @Davij038 @SHallowvale
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Original post by william walker
Simply question what do you want in political terms?

I want to constrain the power of the government as an institutions, stop Liberalism and maintain the legacy of my ancestors.


I want to re build Britain from the ground up.

4 or 5 million new homes in a decade, massive road, rail, port and airport regeneration as well as the key infrastructure in the uk.

I want to leave the EU to become a sovereign nation and have controlled migration so the same pattern of the last half century isn't repeated.

I want a British constitution written and proportional representation with a new house.

I also want to abolish national parliaments so we go back to pre new labour with the exception of Northern Ireland which I would remove from the union and make an independent country.

I want free education at university for in demand subjects and to cut the number of places for subjects not in demand.

I want massive research investment to create the new jobs of the future which will make Britain great on the world stage again as we can never do that again without technological advantages like before.

Finally and probably most sinisterly in the eyes of people reading this I want to change society through manipulation to one of the none victim where every category of person thinks they have a whole set of prejudices against them and move towards more family orientated values to bring stability and common sense to society




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I want to return society to Christendom where people actually had real values rather than this excuse for a country we have at the moment.
Original post by illegaltobepoor
I want to return society to Christendom where people actually had real values rather than this excuse for a country we have at the moment.


How would you encourage faith in a generation of hedonists?
I would like Obama to leave office sooner rather than later.

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Original post by illegaltobepoor
I want to return society to Christendom where people actually had real values rather than this excuse for a country we have at the moment.


And what would this entail, exactly? A Christian theocracy?
Original post by Wave of Wisdom
How would you encourage faith in a generation of hedonists?


Yes, it's proper question. Modern society enjoys to consume. But people in consumerist societies live by the influence of advertisements, and frequently buy things they do not need, and in most cases, cannot afford. It's like a magic circle, and average person is inside of it. Working to make money to satisfy the desire of buying new items of something.

Where you can find God there?

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