I believe God does NOT exist. Someone who does, please explain why you do?

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    Open up people.
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    I just believe in God.I just feel that it makes more sense to believe in God. That's just my view.
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    At first I was afraid, I was petrified
    Kept thinking I could never live without you by my side
    But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong
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    (Original post by Jamie Vardy)
    Open up people.
    Well i believe that this universe could not off happened by chane its far too complex . I also believe in god because it helps me not to get depressed over death because there is an immortal life to look forward to
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    Too many coincidences that even scientists can't explain. I wonder why...
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    I believe in god.
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    Because I've felt His power upon my head many times!
    Even though it might sounds like a joke it is not!
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    (Original post by Trichakra)
    I believe in god.
    Why?
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    (Original post by Jamie Vardy)
    Open up people.
    What arguments do you have for your belief that God does not exist?
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    (Original post by benandjerry)
    What arguments do you have for your belief that God does not exist?
    Have you never encountered an atheist before? It's always the same. "There's no empirical evidence that he does exist and it sounds a bit fanciful so I don't believe it" is the short version.
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    (Original post by Retired_Messiah)
    Have you never encountered an atheist before? It's always the same. "There's no empirical evidence that he does exist and it sounds a bit fanciful so I don't believe it" is the short version.
    Yes sadly lol. I am hoping this will be different
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    (Original post by benandjerry)
    Yes sadly lol. I am hoping this will be different
    I can't imagine any other argument against God one would make, unless they do some weird Ayer-esque bs and decide religious language means nothing at all...
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    I know you want people who believe in god but **** you <3

    OT: I'm an atheist, I've not had a faith probably because none of my family are religious and my experiences go to show me that I don't believe in a God. However, if there is a God then I'd still not like him very much, I don't understand what kind of God would want to be 'loving' to his creations in a way of telling them that they must worship him and not do x, y and z.
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    Why?
    Why you don't believe in god?
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    If there is a god he/she/it is either completely incompetent or an evil capricious monster who takes delight in the suffering of others.

    Why should I worship someone of this description? Or why should I devote my life to a god that may/may not exist, it is just one explanation for the origins of the universe out of an infinite amount of possible explanations. There is just as much evidence for a flying spaghetti monster, should I devote my life to that instead?

    I'd rather just live my life trying to be a decent person, rather then trying to be good to appease some entity that may or may not exist.
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    Personally, I think God exists, just not in the way religions say he does. Let me explain:

    God's supposed to be the creator of everything right? Well, everything's made by the fundamental particles. They can pop into and out of existence at random and are doing so all around you all the time. So, what religious people call God, I call the standard model of particle physics.
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    (Original post by Trichakra)
    Why you don't believe in god?
    That doesn't make sense. I don't believe in God due to lack of evidence (it is the responsibility of the party making the claim to evidence the claim), and lack of overall feasibility.
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    (Original post by _gcx)
    Why?
    Why you don't believe in god?
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    Gödel's ontological argument and something can't come out of nothing.
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    (Original post by Jamie Vardy)
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    Well, there may be a secular counter to these things, but these are the reasons why I personally believe.

    1. Nothing comes from nothing. I firmly believe in a first cause and an unmoved mover. Doesn't directly prove my Christian God, but it does indicate that something caused everything else. Set the cogs in motion, if you like.

    2. The beauty found in nature. Nature does have some pretty nasty bits (bugs that eat people's eyes and all that stuff) but it all works in perfect harmony (even those bugs have a function, albeit a gruesome one) and if you look at a sunset, or a snowflake fractal under a microscope, or even the arrangement of the stars, it all seems to point towards a designer. Doesn't directly prove my Christian God either, but the richness of this world points to it.

    3. The existence of morals. "But Darwinism" yadda yadda. Darwinistic "morals" are primitive and selfish, serving to keep the species moving along in its quest for survival. Jesus's "love your enemies" doesn't make any sense at all in the Darwinistic perspective, yet a lot of humans do feel empathy for people they don't like or shouldn't like on principle. In the animal kingdom, that'd cause carnivores to die out or herbivores to jump willingly into their jaws. You don't see lions lying down with lambs. Overall, I think there is a sense of goodness that is in all us humans. We often have absolutist ideas of right and wrong. Where do our moral laws come from?

    4. Religious experience. It's funny how I, a die-hard atheist, changed my mind almost overnight, and it still bothers me to this day. I like to think I'm a logical person, yet it really does feel like someone flipped a switch inside me. In a more direct fashion, I have experienced things I can't explain. For example, a guy in church the other day stood up to say "I think the Holy Spirit is moving me to say that there is someone in this room who has been experiencing discharge out of their ear... their left ear, and it might have happened this morning? If that's you, go to the prayer ministry at the back after the service" and after the service, there was an old man having hands laid on him. True, the guy could have been acting and he could have known about this old man. But if the old guy had said something to him beforehand, he'd have known they weren't the words of the Holy Spirit, and others might have been suspicious. Also, the guy seemed genuinely nervous since he wasn't accustomed to coming to the front of the church and speaking publicly about something which he could have been wrong about.

    5. Jesus probably existed. There are a number of religious and secular accounts which mention him -- many are making fun of him and his followers but they do have in common the fact they saw him as a real person.

    6. Accounts of the crucifixion. The sky went dark for several hours after Jesus was crucified, which various records by Roman and Greek writers say was the result of a solar eclipse. However, totality never lasts several hours (a fact which seemed undisputed, right down to the timeframe) and solar eclipses only happen at new moon. Jesus was crucified at Passover (Nisan 14, if we accept the unanimous account of the Gospel writers). Passover happens at full moon... therefore not a solar eclipse. It's not concrete as we only have the second-hand quotations of older historians to go by (original manuscripts having been lost) but it's reasonably persuasive that there may have been something more to it.

    Just a few of my reasons why I believe. However, I'm outlining my personal case, not seeking to convince or convert anyone else. If you're interested, you may be able to find an unbiased source (sadly most sources have their agendas, atheist ones just as much as Christian ones) and decide for yourself.
 
 
 
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