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Hi, i'm a bit stuck with a written assessment.

could someone please point me in the right direction to find an argument which supports the idea that judges do not create law?

i've been brain dead on this for 2 days, lol

thank you!
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Hi, i'm a bit stuck with a written assessment.

could someone please point me in the right direction to find an argument which supports the idea that judges do not create law?

i've been brain dead on this for 2 days, lol

thank you!
I'd look for articles or books that discuss Kleinwort Benson v Lincoln City Council.
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Literal approach?
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I'd look for articles or books that discuss Kleinwort Benson v Lincoln City Council.
Thanks! i'll look into that now =)


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Literal approach?
of statutory interpretation? I dont think that would be a strong enough argument to say that judges do not create law but thanks!
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Thanks! i'll look into that now =)




of statutory interpretation? I dont think that would be a strong enough argument to say that judges do not create law but thanks!
Stare decisis? Binding precedent?
Court hierarchy?
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Stare decisis? Binding precedent?
Court hierarchy?
I wouldn't have thought those could be used in an argument to suggest judges do not create law..? If anything, it shows that they do

I think I might just play on the fact that flexible interpretation of statue (mischief rule, etc) might come across as judges creating law.. :afraid:

It's pretty clear judges do create law so.. to find an argument to suggest otherwise is hard hahah

Thanks though
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I wouldn't have thought those could be used in an argument to suggest judges do not create law..? If anything, it shows that they do

I think I might just play on the fact that flexible interpretation of statue (mischief rule, etc) might come across as judges creating law.. :afraid:

It's pretty clear judges do create law so.. to find an argument to suggest otherwise is hard hahah

Thanks though
How would stare decisis be evidence of judges creating law?
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How would stare decisis be evidence of judges creating law?
Because stare decisis is the doctrine of precedent, following the decisions of previous cases which is part of the common law, and judge made law, which shows judges make law?

Or am I being really dumb? :bricks:
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Because stare decisis is the doctrine of precedent, following the decisions of previous cases which is part of the common law, and judge made law, which shows judges make law?

Or am I being really dumb? :bricks:
You're not being dumb. You're just not expressing yourself very well.
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You're not being dumb. You're just not expressing yourself very well.
Ok that makes sense, i've only been studying law for 6 weeks :confused: haha! This is my first assignment and most of it is very confusing =)
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I thought it was parliament that creates law?
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Your starting point would be a glance at Kleinwort Benson. This case isn't exactly a gripping read, but you may also wish to read something on the Rule of Law and/or the English Legal System.

If you've only been studying Law for six weeks, at what level are you studying? If this is only an equivalent of GCSE level then reading a case would be a bit of an overkill.
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Your starting point would be a glance at Kleinwort Benson. This case isn't exactly a gripping read, but you may also wish to read something on the Rule of Law and/or the English Legal System.

If you've only been studying Law for six weeks, at what level are you studying? If this is only an equivalent of GCSE level then reading a case would be a bit of an overkill.
I've read some stuff on that case this evening, but probably because i'm so new to law, I cant understand it very well, argh

And i'm doing an LLB, meh ! haha
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I thought it was parliament that creates law?
They make statute, yeah!
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Judges create laws interpretatively in an executive, "final deal" kind of way, but they're bound by the code of law, and they can be charged.

A judge has the power to waive certain aspects but are limited to a case-by-case approach. This is why being a judge is a very serious affair.

As for the question, "can judges create law from example?", the answer is yes. Because they are not only citizens who are capable of protest, they can protest executively. A lobby of judges can start legislating indirectly if they are vocal enough.

It's all about populism.
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Judges create laws interpretatively in an executive, "final deal" kind of way, but they're bound by the code of law, and they can be charged.

A judge has the power to waive certain aspects but are limited to a case-by-case approach. This is why being a judge is a very serious affair.

As for the question, "can judges create law from example?", the answer is yes. Because they are not only citizens who are capable of protest, they can protest executively. A lobby of judges can start legislating indirectly if they are vocal enough.

It's all about populism.
You seem to miss the point entirely.

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They make statute, yeah!
OP, you have the case and directions on which literature to read. I think it is probably best to go about reading the materials, as people are now jumping in not really understanding the question at all. As you're a new entrant to law, you don't want to be left more confused by taking on board the advice of people who are even more confused than you.
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You seem to miss the point entirely.
The question was, do judges create law.

The answer is yes, indirectly, via example.
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You seem to miss the point entirely.



OP, you have the case and directions on which literature to read. I think it is probably best to go about reading the materials, as people are now jumping in not really understanding the question at all. As you're a new entrant to law, you don't want to be left more confused by taking on board the advice of people who are even more confused than you.
Indeed, haha! thank you
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The question was, do judges create law.

The answer is yes, indirectly, via example.
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:facepalm:
Same to you.
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