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    (Original post by bob072)
    Haven't you checked the curriculum?


    1 - Tories are killing people
    2 - Spend, spend, spend
    3 - EU good, Brexit bad


    If you don't comply you are excluded as being 'high risk'.
    I don't think some schools teach even that, they are holding pens for benefit claiming gangsters
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    No the target is ridiculous. Foreign aid can do some good but it should drastically lowered and under the purview of the foreign office.

    Countries succeed due to having property rights and the rule of law, not through having money chucked at them, especially if theyre corrupt. I think foreign aid is on the long run actually harming the development of the third world.
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    (Original post by bob072)
    Haven't you checked the curriculum?


    1 - Tories are killing people
    2 - Spend, spend, spend
    3 - EU good, Brexit bad


    If you don't comply you are excluded as being 'high risk'.
    This must be a very old curriculum if it doesn’t have “Israel bad” on it.
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    (Original post by DeBruyne18)
    Because even spending a small amount on stuff such as irrigation systems can make a massive difference.

    It suits us for the rest of the world to be prosperous.
    Thats why the government has a volunteering program ICS. Volunteers do more work and help out in the community more than this money. We have given Pakistan so much money, im still failing to see what they have actually spent it on, that will help their society.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    No the target is ridiculous. Foreign aid can do some good but it should drastically lowered and under the purview of the foreign office.

    Countries succeed due to having property rights and the rule of law, not through having money chucked at them, especially if theyre corrupt. I think foreign aid is on the long run actually harming the development of the third world.
    I use Pakistan as an example. Us and America have given so much money to them, im failing to see how its helped ABIT. Infact it seems that they helped the most wanted man in the world hide haha
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    No the target is ridiculous. Foreign aid can do some good but it should drastically lowered and under the purview of the foreign office.

    Countries succeed due to having property rights and the rule of law, not through having money chucked at them, especially if theyre corrupt. I think foreign aid is on the long run actually harming the development of the third world.
    Aid should absolutely not be under the remit of the foreign office, the result being that aid very quickly becomes part of trade deals and international agreements as opposed to an assessent of who needs it most.
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    (Original post by jdddd)
    Thats why the government has a volunteering program ICS. Volunteers do more work and help out in the community more than this money. We have given Pakistan so much money, im still failing to see what they have actually spent it on, that will help their society.
    And volunteers need money. Clean water, schools, hospitals and infrastructure systems.
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    (Original post by bob072)
    Well it's taxpayers money not theirs (as well as borrowing which amounts to future taxation) but even so taxation as a percentage of GDP is the highest in 40 years and at record highs. I know it doesn't fit with the Marxist agenda of Corbyn/McDonnell but it's true.
    The issue of taxation is a seperate issue entirely. Most of the issues of taxation and government spending would be negated if the government actually got off their arses and closed the various tax evasion loopholes for corporations like Amazon.
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    (Original post by DeBruyne18)
    And volunteers need money. Clean water, schools, hospitals and infrastructure systems.
    Charties and Locals provide food, water, accommodation etc.
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    Reduce it. We should only have money aside for disaster relief (Like Haiti for example) why are we giving any money to India. They have a space programme. If they can’t spend their money properly, that’s their problem not ours.
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    (Original post by jdddd)
    Charties and Locals provide food, water, accommodation etc.
    That's rather silly. Where do you think they get their money from? A huge amount of foreign aid goes to charities who carry out such work.

    Locals don't have enough money or resources to do it, that's why we have foreign aid.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    No the target is ridiculous. Foreign aid can do some good but it should drastically lowered and under the purview of the foreign office.

    Countries succeed due to having property rights and the rule of law, not through having money chucked at them, especially if theyre corrupt. I think foreign aid is on the long run actually harming the development of the third world.
    Not really. Spending money on building clean water and sanitation systems in poorer countries is wonderfully beneficial to those communities. As is building schools and hospitals and other infrastructure.

    You know, there seems to be a tendency to just think aid does nothing but actually there has been serious progress in much of Africa and a lot of that is down to foreign aid.

    Yes you need the rule of law, but you also need clean drinking water and housing and schools.
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    (Original post by DeBruyne18)
    That's rather silly. Where do you think they get their money from? A huge amount of foreign aid goes to charities who carry out such work.

    Locals don't have enough money or resources to do it, that's why we have foreign aid.
    Not every volunteering program costs money. A lot of the time its labor time to create better working conditions on farms etc.

    So no locals have accommodation or money?

    Didier Drogba built something like three new hospitals in his country, don't see foreign aid doing that.
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    (Original post by jdddd)
    Not every volunteering program costs money. A lot of the time its labor time to create better working conditions on farms etc.

    So no locals have accommodation or money?

    Didier Drogba built something like three new hospitals in his country, don't see foreign aid doing that.
    How on earth are you going to build schools, hospitals, roads and infrastructure without money?

    No the locals don't have money, that's why we're helping them.
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    (Original post by DeBruyne18)
    Not really. Spending money on building clean water and sanitation systems in poorer countries is wonderfully beneficial to those communities. As is building schools and hospitals and other infrastructure.

    You know, there seems to be a tendency to just think aid does nothing but actually there has been serious progress in much of Africa and a lot of that is down to foreign aid.

    Yes you need the rule of law, but you also need clean drinking water and housing and schools.

    It would be good if we can get water to these communities. However, in the reality world, thats not where most of the money goes. Or we would have so many more communities with water. Most of the charity boses are on plus three hundred thousand a year. Ridiculous.

    Also, evidence the 'serious progress', have you seen it first hand?
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    so many countries rejected our care as part of the Empire and now depend on our handouts after leaving.

    smh
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    (Original post by DeBruyne18)
    How on earth are you going to build schools, hospitals, roads and infrastructure without money?

    No the locals don't have money, that's why we're helping them.

    Name me a hospital or school built with foreign aid money. I may allow one road which was built in Afghanistan, but that was for the safety of our troops. You mean the same locals we get our fruit and vegetables from?
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    (Original post by DeBruyne18)
    How on earth are you going to build schools, hospitals, roads and infrastructure without money?

    No the locals don't have money, that's why we're helping them.
    'While giving a country the money to build a hospital may sound like a great thing to do, it has only a temporary and very localised effect. The secondary, and more important long-term impact is that the country doesn’t develop its own institutions and tax systems.
    The government of the recipient country would have needed to tax in order to build the hospital. But without the need to tax, the government hasn’t had to act legitimately such that its citizens will pay up on time and in full. There is no incentive for the government to respect its citizens and vice versa.'

    http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/for..._about_results
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    I think we should spend 0.7% but it should be spent on countries that actually need it. Not countries like India and Pakistan which have nuclear weapons and India has a space program as well. They should be spending their money on providing opportunities for their poor, not on unnecessary projects.

    Foreign aid acts as a form of soft power. It helps us to improve our diplomatic relations with countries and can lead to economic benefits for us later on. People seem to think that we send aid because we’re nice. That’s not purely why we do it. It’s to encourage countries to develop better relations with us.
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    we had a british empire,
    we made them poor and in trouble,
    we are one of the richest nations in the world,
    if homeless people in UK want to get out of homeless go to a charity,
    people in developing countries don't have this choice as they can't afford it,
    hence why RICH countries give aid to POOR countries
 
 
 
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