Too many people want to go to uni

Who is to judge what a 'heavyweight' subject is.

Seemingly in the case of gender studies, you are.

The reason I asked where you were in the application process is because you do need to be careful about the interview process. The interview isn't a test of subject knowledge but an examination of receptiveness to new needs and reasoning capability.

Obviously this is just a discussion forum, but your arguments need to be a lot tighter. Your position of gender studies is defensible but not using the arguments you have deployed.

lmao it's a forum and i couldn't care less to even try and argue.

like it's not even important to me lmao

I think in this context we were talking about undergrad.

but again, you talk the talk and can never respond when i call you out.

Who is to judge what a 'heavyweight' subject is. i can just tell you that gender studies is a mickey mouse degree

I feel that too many are pressured into going to uni and it takes a lot of value away from getting a degree

lmao it's a forum and i couldn't care less to even try and argue.

like it's not even important to me lmao

Are you holding an offer or trying for 2019?

Did you even read what it said? "Master of Philosophy", an 11 month course and lasts 11 months. It's predominately about research, not an undergraduate on Gender Studies. Women's Studies is VERY different to gender studies.

Lmao i've been sold a lie that I will most definitely buy into and be a part of

but it's how the other poster said it and they haven't been dragged for it, yet i've said it it's somehow offensive.

it isn't a worthy subject.

this is why i'm firmly in favour of tuition fees being there for people who want to take such ridiculous courses requiring a paymeny plan from the day they start and courses that lead to somewhere being put on loan.

I would always advise anyone, if you dont get into a RG Uni dont bother with university. Their maybe one or two universities outside of it who are rated well, but the RG Marketing has been superb. My second advise would be if you do get into a RG Uni, if you are not doing a STEM Course, Law, Medicine, Dentistry, Economics please do not bother.

Are you holding an offer or trying for 2019?

Cambridge have a degree in Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic, and it's an undergrad degree before you try and pass it off like the Women studies thing

So yeah, the top unis do offer things of "no value".

https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/courses/anglo-saxon-norse-and-celtic

Just in case you didn't believe me

That is why employers single out the ones who went to a RG Uni and done a meaningful course and achieved a 2:1 at the end of it. That will significantly seperate the academic able students and the less able students...

People who get low grades can still get into uni, clearly they're not academics yet are pressured into going. It should be how it was before, for the academics, rather than any old Joe who just wants to go for the fun

That is a dangerous thing to say to people.

I'd stretch the "don't go to uni" bar to include far more than "RG" (seriously, you would tell someone to not go to St Andrews or Bath but go to QUB or Liverpool??). I'm pretty sure people with degrees in History from UCL or Bristol and a commerical, driven mindset have way better job prospects than an econ grad from Liverpool or QMUL.

That bar includes probably 40-45 institutions that are a mix of RG and "good" non-RG and then ~20 more that specialise in an area and produce strong, sought after grads (i.e. London Met for architecture, NTU for fashion, Central Saint Martin for fashion, AUB for animation, Bournemouth for TV production, Brunel for Engineering and Design) in that area.

I would also encourage people to go if they can buckle up, score some solid grades and get good postgrad offers (not cash cow MScs, funded PhDs or valuable MScs) or transfer upwards but have to go to "worse" unis initially because of circumstances.

Also, any healthcare related degree anywhere is safe.

The rest.. The ones who end up with **** grades or mediocre to average grades and no experience at mediocre universities to **** universities should have done something else.

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Your TSR support team meaning you should be older enough to know this is almost pure ********. An average grade is 2:1 at University, work experience is required yes, but just because they don't have work experience when they graduate doesn't mean they should of done something else, it just means they do internship after graduated.

I mean, the return on investment on just getting an apprenticeship or another job and working upwards is a lot (like a lot, a lot) higher than the expected value of going to a low ranking university and not building a strong profile.

You said going to average university with an average grade, there also have to be a university which has to be low/high ranked but I agree that some of the bottom universities need to be closed, such as Greenwich.

Depends on your definition of average.

Based on all the analysis I've done to form my opinion on this matter, I'd say that "mediocre to ****" is closer to 65-100+ on the league tables (the exceptions being where a university excels in a given area) and "average to mediocre" is scraping a 2:1 to a 3rd. With absolutely no effort put into bolstering their CVs in the 3-4 years they were at university sprinkled on top - given there were no adverse circumstances.

I have nothing against people who better themselves and knucke down wherever they are. Plenty of people do well from universities that aren't as highly ranked or academic.