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Why is it considered bad to be a miser?

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Reply 20
Most of these people are retarded consumers, I can't believe anyone would tell you not to save for the sake of saving...Your attitude towards saving and spending will dictate how long you spend slaving away in an office, if you're smart enough to not spend money for the sake of it, or spend it on things you don't want or need, you will escape the rat race far quicker than the dumb consumers above.
there are people who don't have enough money to survive and then we have many who just keep so much extra money "just in case"

It's always good to be precautions but honestly if you just keep on saving more and more money you should really donate to the needy

I don't know to what extent OP's a miser so this may or may not apply to OP
Original post by Maid Marian
Things like... if my friends and I are going to a pub, I'll eat before I go so I can just buy a small side or small dessert instead of a meal. And I'll almost always get tap water when out.


Can see the sense somewhat in eating before, especially if you're going to a nice place. Tap water is slightly boring, but your choice and no doubt healthier.


I won't always go for the cheapest option in, say, supermarkets, like I still eat branded stuff, but I always try to get things when they're on offer and get the best price etc.


Yeah, I think most people do that.

My boyfriend called me a miser the other day because I went to buy some bread for toast - I came back with white toastie bread, and he asked why I didn't get the Hovis super seeded one, which he knows is my favourite. I said, because the toastie bread was a pound cheaper and I was planning to leave the bread with him anyway (I was visiting, and he doesn't like seeded bread).


Sounds like you were just being sensible, knowing you'd only have a few slices from the loaf.

I don't know, I'll deny myself "treats" here and there, but I never go hungry or anything like that, I eat well. I just don't like to buy things when out.


Fair enough.

To be honest, nothing that unusual.
To me, a miser is distinguished from someone who is merely frugal as they show an unwillingness to be generous with their money. It is one thing not to spend much on yourself, but when you don't show willingness to pay for rounds of drinks, chip in for food, etc.

I'm certainly frugal as I really don't like the consumer culture that is the hallmark of modern society, but I'm more than happy to spend money on people I enjoy spending time with.
Original post by drsfgdg
It's a mix of jealousy you've used your money more wisely and because it invalidates peoples beliefs lol. Be proud.

e.g. I manage to save about 10k a year with a net income of 15k (10k student loan 5k work). This over 4 years = 40k, which is over the average deposit for a house (33k), and disagrees with the "no one can afford a home" narrative most people have convinced themselves is true while in reality they're just pissing away money on stupid unnecessary ****.


There is no way you can pay rent and utility costs and still have an annual outgoing of £5,000. That means you are most likely living with your parents.

This is not feasible for many people or many of us have a level of self-respect that means we do not wish to suckle at the teat of our parents into adulthood. It is worth bearing in mind before you accuse others of jealousy.
I think the division is that someone who is frugal will still take money out their pocket, they just want the most bang for their buck. A miser won't take the money out their pocket. Way past the point where it's cutting off their nose to spite their face, and as said, when they live like that they think everyone else should.

The issue with Scrooge was never that he was rich. It was that he didn't see why anyone else should have anything, ever, regardless of how they got it. And boy did he get raging about it.
Original post by Sulfolobus
There is no way you can pay rent and utility costs and still have an annual outgoing of £5,000. That means you are most likely living with your parents.

This is not feasible for many people or many of us have a level of self-respect that means we do not wish to suckle at the teat of our parents into adulthood. It is worth bearing in mind before you accuse others of jealousy.


Just lol at this cope. I'm not in contact with my parents, and when I was they were both abusive benefits leeches so no money from them. Rest of my siblings are in debt or have a few hundred to their name.

Here's the *****est accomodation in various cities, I myself pay 65 a week

https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/lincolnshire/lincoln/2802074 (55)
https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/north_yorkshire/york/10314118 (60)
https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/leicestershire/loughborough/407396 (65)
Bills are on average 15 a week in a shared 4 bed house (rounded up). Food 20 (rounded up). Total = 65+15+20=100, 100*52 = 5,200.
Before I get accused of lying about food I buy a mix of aldi and tesco value, don't drink and bills are in a houseshare of 4.

In conclusion, stop making excuses it's pathetic. ANYONE who makes 15k a year with no dependents and worked as a kid can have this much in 3 years (for me, at age 21). There are no excuses.
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Reply 27
No pockets in shrouds.
Original post by drsfgdg
Just lol at this cope. I'm not in contact with my parents, and when I was they were both abusive benefits leeches so no money from them. Rest of my siblings are in debt or have a few hundred to their name.

Here's the *****est accomodation in various cities, I myself pay 65 a week

https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/lincolnshire/lincoln/2802074 (55)
https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/north_yorkshire/york/10314118 (60)
https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/leicestershire/loughborough/407396 (65)
Bills are on average 15 a week in a shared 4 bed house (rounded up). Food 20 (rounded up). Total = 65+15+20=100, 100*52 = 5,200.
Before I get accused of lying about food I buy a mix of aldi and tesco value, don't drink and bills are in a houseshare of 4.

In conclusion, stop making excuses it's pathetic. ANYONE who makes 15k a year with no dependents and worked as a kid can have this much in 3 years (for me, at age 21). There are no excuses.
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Firstly you are citing cheaper cities.

Secondly, you are assuming people don't face other costs you haven't listed including transport, university costs, clothing, personal care/hygiene products, phone costs, costs associated with socialising, costs of dates, the cost of condoms that comes with being sexually active, etc.

While you maybe willing to go without such things many young people prefer a bit of enjoyment in their lives that goes beyond eating boiled pasta and admiring their bank accounts.
Original post by drsfgdg
Just lol at this cope. I'm not in contact with my parents, and when I was they were both abusive benefits leeches so no money from them. Rest of my siblings are in debt or have a few hundred to their name.

Here's the *****est accomodation in various cities, I myself pay 65 a week

https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/lincolnshire/lincoln/2802074 (55)
https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/north_yorkshire/york/10314118 (60)
https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/leicestershire/loughborough/407396 (65)
Bills are on average 15 a week in a shared 4 bed house (rounded up). Food 20 (rounded up). Total = 65+15+20=100, 100*52 = 5,200.
Before I get accused of lying about food I buy a mix of aldi and tesco value, don't drink and bills are in a houseshare of 4.

In conclusion, stop making excuses it's pathetic. ANYONE who makes 15k a year with no dependents and worked as a kid can have this much in 3 years (for me, at age 21). There are no excuses.
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Then you are caught by Sulflo's other criticism, "self-respect". How many people have such little self-respect that they live in a shitehouse such as that. That's what I don't understand -- in the immortal words of Joey Coco Diaz, you're getting paid, b*tch!!! Act like it.

Don't be one of those 90-year-old mushes who dies in a council flat with a million in the bank, after a liftetime of not having any fun or enjoyment, and having no children to pass your monies on to.
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Original post by Maid Marian
The definition of a miser seems to be someone who likes to hoard money, saving instead of spending.

I will happily admit that I am extremely stingy with my money - I like to save it all "just in case" and will often feel guilty if I make a purchase that's not absolutely necessary. I keep an edexcel spreadsheet as a budget and make a note of incomings and outgoings.

However, I have been called a miser and, after looking at definitions, I admit that I am definitely one! But why is it bad? I do spend money on 'fun things' sometimes and I don't live in poverty or anything. I just like to know that I'm sat on a pocket of money for the future in case I need it.

But why do people think this is a bad thing?:s-smilie:

Its not bad, you're sensible that's a good
Original post by Sulfolobus
Firstly you are citing cheaper cities.

Secondly, you are assuming people don't face other costs you haven't listed including transport, university costs, clothing, personal care/hygiene products, phone costs, costs associated with socialising, costs of dates, the cost of condoms that comes with being sexually active, etc.

While you maybe willing to go without such things many young people prefer a bit of enjoyment in their lives that goes beyond eating boiled pasta and admiring their bank accounts.


These were the first 3 cities I thought of, (excluding the one I'm in). Ok if you're in london, oxford or somewhere expensive then it doesn't apply but I think this applies to a lot of places.

And for the rest it comes well under 500 (transport 100 on bike, uni costs, personal care, clothes already included with tesco, phone averages about 100 a year, socialising and dates don't have to involve shopping or eating out, condoms (can really feel the bitterness now....) are free for people 18-25). I also left out I make over a grand just from existing (stocks) a year which easily cancels this out.

For your final point, what exciting experiences am I missing out on? From what I've seen living with people it's literally just this: blowing money on phones/designer clothes/high end computers, blowing money on takeaways, blowing money on alcohol, even blowing money buying all the expensive stuff at the supermarket, forgetting about it and throwing it away. They are not spending it on stuff actually worthwhile and lasting, meanwhile I hope to buy a house at 22 which is very lasting.
Original post by Notoriety
Then you are caught by Sulflo's other criticism, "self-respect". How many people have such little self-respect that they live in a shitehouse such as that. That's what I don't understand -- in the immortal words of Joey Coco Diaz, you're getting paid, b*tch!!! Act like it.

Don't be one of those 90-year-old mushes who dies in a council flat with a million in the bank, after a liftetime of not having any fun or enjoyment, and having no children to pass your monies on to.


I understand where you're coming from, but I don't really feel dissatisfied with this lifestyle. I eat the healthiest/best out of the people in my house and have time to go camping/"urbexing" regularly which I love and costs little/nothing. Other people just seem to spend their money on useless **** (see above) instead of worthwhile experiences.
Reply 32
Original post by drsfgdg
Just lol at this cope. I'm not in contact with my parents, and when I was they were both abusive benefits leeches so no money from them. Rest of my siblings are in debt or have a few hundred to their name.

Here's the *****est accomodation in various cities, I myself pay 65 a week

https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/lincolnshire/lincoln/2802074 (55)
https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/north_yorkshire/york/10314118 (60)
https://www.spareroom.co.uk/flatshare/leicestershire/loughborough/407396 (65)
Bills are on average 15 a week in a shared 4 bed house (rounded up). Food 20 (rounded up). Total = 65+15+20=100, 100*52 = 5,200.
Before I get accused of lying about food I buy a mix of aldi and tesco value, don't drink and bills are in a houseshare of 4.

In conclusion, stop making excuses it's pathetic. ANYONE who makes 15k a year with no dependents and worked as a kid can have this much in 3 years (for me, at age 21). There are no excuses.
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An absolutely based response, good on you mate, everyone else here may rag on you but when you leave uni with a deposit, you are the one laughing!

I myself will be getting a maintenance loan similar to yours and plan to work time so I hope to emulate what you havedone, and in my gap year I've worked full time. I can't wait to buy a house straight out of uni when the others who need expensive clothes and cars still live with their parents.
Original post by Jmeme10
An absolutely based response, good on you mate, everyone else here may rag on you but when you leave uni with a deposit, you are the one laughing!

I myself will be getting a maintenance loan similar to yours and plan to work time so I hope to emulate what you havedone, and in my gap year I've worked full time. I can't wait to buy a house straight out of uni when the others who need expensive clothes and cars still live with their parents.


Cheers man, manage to save 10k a year and it will be yours, no ifs no buts.
well if you saw your favourite box of luxury chocolate that is usually £10 or something, going for only £2, and you still didn't treat yourself, I'd think you love your money a little bit too much, you might even love the idea of money more than using it for experiences and things in life i.e maybe you're a money fetishist. also if you have a guilt response to enjoying yourself I'd find you a real of a drag. it's nice to be around someone who wants to enjoy life and is generous to others and to themselves and is relaxed - obviously there are still responsibilties and limits, and it's not about over-indulging. but a little tight-fisted penny counter would really grate on me. i guess we all just have things that get to us.
Original post by drsfgdg
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't really feel dissatisfied with this lifestyle. I eat the healthiest/best out of the people in my house and have time to go camping/"urbexing" regularly which I love and costs little/nothing. Other people just seem to spend their money on useless **** (see above) instead of worthwhile experiences.


What you seem to be forgetting is that you are not defending your lifestyle but prescribing it for others. With respect, eating basic means and camping are not everyone's idea of a good time or experience. You are saying people are foolish for spending lavishly, but it is a source of enjoyment to them as much as your camping or having the safety of savings are to you.
Original post by Sulfolobus
There is no way you can pay rent and utility costs and still have an annual outgoing of £5,000. That means you are most likely living with your parents.

This is not feasible for many people or many of us have a level of self-respect that means we do not wish to suckle at the teat of our parents into adulthood. It is worth bearing in mind before you accuse others of jealousy.


Also forgot to mention you seem very bitter about this and are comparing yourself to me.

"level of self-respect that means we do not wish to suckle at the teat of our parents into adulthood " when I'm an undergrad and almost everyone goes back in holidays.

"admiring my bank account" when I don't think about it at all as I live very modestly and never have to worry about it.

"subtle" jabs like "the cost of condoms that comes with being sexually active".

Just embarrassing.
Reply 37
Original post by drsfgdg
Cheers man, manage to save 10k a year and it will be yours, no ifs no buts.


The only thing that would stop me is food, what do you eat to spend only £20 a week?
Original post by Notoriety
What you seem to be forgetting is that you are not defending your lifestyle but prescribing it for others. With respect, eating basic means and camping are not everyone's idea of a good time or experience. You are saying people are foolish for spending lavishly, but it is a source of enjoyment to them as much as your camping or having the safety of savings are to you.


I might have been unclear, sorry.

Imo 100% foolish: buying the £600 iphone every year, takeaways every night, designer clothes, forgetting about food so it rots
Wouldn't do it myself but understand it: holidays, eating at nice restaurants, buying high quality food (although even with this I eat fresh instead of microwave crap), pretty much every hobby.

If you mean the top one I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree and sorry if I insulted you. :smile: I just cannot get how people do the top ones or get pleasure from them.
Original post by Jmeme10
The only thing that would stop me is food, what do you eat to spend only £20 a week?


I'm a vegan and don't drink which has a lot to do with it, alcohol seems to be the most expensive thing for most people followed by meat.

Just shopping at aldi saves a lot without skimping on quality with no effort. My usual meals are:

Breakfast: cornflakes with muesli or toast, fruit
Midday meal: Fake chicken bap or sandwich, maybe chips if I'm feeling lazy, fruit
Tea: Stir fry or pasta or "spicy mexican wraps" (forgot proper name), fruit

Fruit is one of banana, apple, orange, peach, pear.

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