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Jaager
welcome to the class system....

Methinks that has little to do with 'class' or even income.

Come on, if you liked someone then it wouldn't make a difference how much their folks earn. Even my most snobbish friends base their prejudices entirely on the person (i for one wouldn't date a chav) and NOT on their parents.

So I would guess this girl actually wasn't that interested and that the poster has the wrong end of the stick when it comes to the reason he was dumped...
curryADD
i say bathroom darling, i'm from new orleans.

and, in the circumstances, i would say that posh carries with it the connotation of not only having money, but also possessing a certain lack of tact when approaching the subject of money in everyday life. for instance, i would expect a posh girl to openly and happily tell a much poorer friend about her new gucci purse, and how she was buying one from chanel the next day, with the birthday money mummy gave her. :rolleyes:

now, a girl with class would realize how tactless that would be, and in general, would keep a bit quieter about her money when with people less fortunate.

'Posh and 'class' have entirely different meanings in the UK to America.

I'm not even going to start ont he whole 'new moeny vs old money' thing either.
Not all 'posh' people actually are wealthy. Infact quite a few of my firends who would be described as rather 'raaah' actually have little wealth in the family.
Reply 82
Jamie
Methinks that has little to do with 'class' or even income.

Come on, if you liked someone then it wouldn't make a difference how much their folks earn. Even my most snobbish friends base their prejudices entirely on the person (i for one wouldn't date a chav) and NOT on their parents.

So I would guess this girl actually wasn't that interested and that the poster has the wrong end of the stick when it comes to the reason he was dumped...



You may be right, but she said in as many words that it was because i was "poor". And she had no problem going out with me before finding out, and if she wasn't interested we wouldn't have been going out for 6 months. The added fact that she started dating a guy who was a lot better off than me who she didn't really like, but he offered to take her to parties and the like, further adds to my point. You shouldn't judge other people by your own standards lest they judge you by theirs. The thing is you can't understand how everyone thinks so you shouldn't try, you need to find ways to deal with the differances.

If i wasn't sure that that wasn't the major part if the why, then i wouldn't have brought it up. A normal break up would have been preferable.
Reply 83
NDGAARONDI
I would like to point out that salary income does not necessarily equal class.


Hmm it's true - I suppose my family has always been upper-middle class in heritage and outlook, but our income is fairly low. My dad's a university lecturer and my mum doesn't really work - so not rolling in money... but people always seem to assume I'm really well off from the way I speak, or the stuff I like to eat / do... it grates a little bit that they always expect me to shell out for stuff - and if I try to say that I'm short of cash, there's no convincing them. :frown:
Reply 84
there's no way it was JUST because of that. no way.

we're not living in some sort of 'woman of no importance' universe where the class divide prevents people from socialising and forming meaningful relationships.
Reply 85
Christien
there's no way it was JUST because of that. no way.

we're not living in some sort of 'woman of no importance' universe where the class divide prevents people from socialising and forming meaningful relationships.


I didn't say it was just that, but there is always more to a story. I spent a long time helping her deal with her problems, and when we broke up she had just finished gettting her head straight. This is just my side of the story she may or may not have other reasons but the reason i have on here is the reason she gave me. Which is why i put a thread up asking people about what they think i should do about it.
Reply 86
stryker101
only to you, my friend

hah why jump on the poor girl? maybe all privileged people should cover up their backgrounds to make people like you happy?


what exactly are you talking about? people like me? :rolleyes:

as my parents bought me my own house for my sixteenth birthday, i think you perhaps misjudged the state of my wallet.

my family is old american money, and we have houses in europe, africa, and multiple properties in the states.

i'm merely suggesting that she will be more liked if she doesn't shove money in people's faces, as people tend to resent it. tact and graciousness are key if you want to be accepted out of your class. you'll also find, that with these two things you're far more admired by your "betters" aswell.
Reply 87
You're better off without her.
curryADD
what exactly are you talking about? people like me? :rolleyes:

as my parents bought me my own house for my sixteenth birthday, i think you perhaps misjudged the state of my wallet.

my family is old american money, and we have houses in europe, africa, and multiple properties in the states.

i'm merely suggesting that she will be more liked if she doesn't shove money in people's faces, as people tend to resent it. tact and graciousness are key if you want to be accepted out of your class. you'll also find, that with these two things you're far more admired by your "betters" aswell.

old american money...

old is rather relative isn't it :smile:
Reply 89
Jamie
old american money...

old is rather relative isn't it :smile:


isn't everything? :wink:
curryADD
i'm merely suggesting that she will be more liked if she doesn't shove money in people's faces, as people tend to resent it. tact and graciousness are key if you want to be accepted out of your class. you'll also find, that with these two things you're far more admired by your "betters" aswell.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

everyone read and understand this.

also, re, class, financial income doesn't really matter to me (this is one instance where bigger is better, though), but seriously, I find myself far more attracted to generally RP/southern/not heavily regional accents.

Jamie
old american money...

old is rather relative isn't it :smile:


Given that financial capital started being invested into the States, especially in the form of land ownership, since the 1500s, there is most definetly an American 'old money' that can compete with a British one.
Reply 91
curryADD
what exactly are you talking about? people like me? :rolleyes:

as my parents bought me my own house for my sixteenth birthday, i think you perhaps misjudged the state of my wallet.

my family is old american money, and we have houses in europe, africa, and multiple properties in the states.

i'm merely suggesting that she will be more liked if she doesn't shove money in people's faces, as people tend to resent it. tact and graciousness are key if you want to be accepted out of your class. you'll also find, that with these two things you're far more admired by your "betters" aswell.


here we go again, when i said people like you i didnt mean poor people.

people like you - meant those people that start screaming whenever anyone brings up how much class or money they might have, who gives a dump?

quit acting like youre some victim of ghastly posh people trying to get one over you. perfect example is that quote there^, that was nothing to do with how much money or class you have - it was because i though that your post was a bit off - but you get all hysterical about it being because you arent rich or posh enough:s-smilie:
Reply 92
Seems a bit silly, but if it was serious enough that marriage was considered, then I think an assessment of prospects is quite sensible. While the romantic image is that people will fall in love and will be happy to live together in abject poverty for the rest of their lives, that is not the reality. Moreover, it would be a selfish environment in which to bring up children.
Reply 93
stryker101
here we go again, when i said people like you i didnt mean poor people.

people like you - meant those people that start screaming whenever anyone brings up how much class or money they might have, who gives a dump?

quit acting like youre some victim of ghastly posh people trying to get one over you. perfect example is that quote there^, that was nothing to do with how much money or class you have - it was because i though that your post was a bit off - but you get all hysterical about it being because you arent rich or posh enough:s-smilie:


i'm hardly hysterical, i was just raised in a household where mentioning money, religion, or sex were hardly good topics for discussion due to their inflammatory nature.

and what do you mean by, "a bit off?" that sounds a bit subjective to me. could it be that i'm american, and that anything i say or type will have a characteristically different syntax from almost everyone in here?

and since i've only known about four people who have been able to classically "up" me in terms of money, i'm not terribly worried or upset when people try. what i do find funny is that "poshtotty" someone who said she was upset that poorer people judged her, included posh in her name. what a fantastic way to set yourself clearly apart from anyone of a lesser income. :rolleyes:
Reply 94
curryADD
i'm hardly hysterical, i was just raised in a household where mentioning money, religion, or sex were hardly good topics for discussion due to their inflammatory nature.


It's generally taboo to discuss money socially here, with one major exception: it has always been tradition for a father, before allowing someone to become engaged to his daughter, to enquire as to the man's financial standing and prospects. Rightly so, I'd argue.
Reply 95
L i b
It's generally taboo to discuss money socially here, with one major exception: it has always been tradition for a father, before allowing someone to become engaged to his daughter, to enquire as to the man's financial standing and prospects. Rightly so, I'd argue.


well, of course. however, it's not as if the father in today's society can actually stop the daughter. and most likely, the daughter will probably already be well aware of the fiancial boundaries her beloved has.
What she did was completely out of order. Let her live in her unrealistic world, you're much better off without her!
daddy bought me an island for my birthday :rolleyes:
Anonymous
After half a year of dating, my ex gf found out i was "poor" by which i mean that my parents earn together around as much as one of hers. This wasn't a secret, it just never came up. After finding this out she has decided that she wants nothing to do with me at all. Any advice on how to take this, cause this kind of betrayal cuts deep, and i thought we where closer than that.


I'll never date a poorer person. I was always taught not to mix with poorer people, since they're lower class.
You deserve better than her. I can't believe someone could stoop that low. I mean your not what your parents are....

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