Putting "English" as nationality is racist, apparantly! :S

I've been filling out the personal details, etc. bit of my UCAS form, and my tutor had a look at what I'd filled out so far and said "I think it's better to write "white British" not english, because some people consider it racist"
My reply: "hello, we're in England!"
I can't understand why english would be considered racist and not British!

Reply 1

bighairedmike

1

On the UCAS website it won't let yu put English as a nationality. It just comes up that you must enter a nationality. That's racist to English people surely

Reply 2

largebrandon

That is kinda ridiculous if you ask me. Its like if I say I'm a New Yorker instead of saying American. I do not see how that's racist.

Reply 3

ocelotrevs

16

It's strange, because as far as I know, from people I've spoken too. It's only the English that seems find putting English to be racist.

Reply 4

neon

13

how the **** is it racist. english isnt a race. nor is british.

Reply 5

tourist

9

It's not racist it's just wrong, nationality is British.

Reply 6

iMacThere4iAm

It is weird indeed. Interestingly, English is not a valid nationality - you can't put it on official forms etc. Welsh, Scottish and Irish are, however. Harsh, if you ask me. The English are as entitled to their nationality as much as we are.

Reply 7

Redpanda91

OP

15

largebrandon

That is kinda ridiculous if you ask me. Its like if I say I'm a New Yorker instead of saying American. I do not see how that's racist.

Yeah it is, I wouldn't really care if you said "I'm a New Yorker" if you were filling out an official form that I had given you :p:

It wouldn't matter, i'm not gonna be like "OMG you're so racist!"

Reply 8

quintsy

17

How odd.. it's just being more specific from a geographical point of view; I highly doubt people would use UCAS as a soap-box for their racist tendencies :p:

Reply 9

UGeNe

14

Redpanda91

I've been filling out the personal details, etc. bit of my UCAS form, and my tutor had a look at what I'd filled out so far and said "I think it's better to write "white British" not english, because some people consider it racist"
My reply: "hello, we're in England!"
I can't understand why english would be considered racist and not British!

Interesting, why do UK unis ask for ethinicity/ nationality? Do they have quotas for certain groups??

Reply 10

faber niger

17

Your tutor is obviously a prat, but it's not a big deal. I guess it is because you are supposed to put British in order for the system to analyse its applicants correctly.

EDIT: I think it's because you put English for your racial group -- English isn't a racial group, it's a nationality. White British is a racial group. It could be considered racist because it tacitly assumes that being English is to be white. But it's a simple mistake; not a real issue.

Reply 11

joeydeacon

13

the world has gone bloody mad

Reply 12

faber niger

17

UGeNe

Interesting, why do UK unis ask for ethinicity/ nationality? Do they have qoutas for certain groups??

Of course not: you don't have to give them the information. It's just for statistics to see how 'well' they are doing in attracting certain racial groups etc.

Reply 13

laura-rad

2

i'm english but my mum made me put british because she was worried that they'd take away my free university education for living in scotland :p:

mums eh?

Reply 14

Redpanda91

OP

15

jismith1989

Your tutor is obviously a prat, but it's not a big deal. I guess it is because you are supposed to put British in order for the system to analyse its applicants correctly.

yes my tutor is a bit weird, he's a middle age ex-university of Kent sociology lecturer, and today he found my picture on his register sheet and kept calling me "beautiful" and "pretty" :s-smilie:

Lol! Freaky... but he sees me as a racist even though he's english himself :p:

Reply 15

Absurd

16

Your teacher is stupid.

Reply 16

Lord Lawz

People don't even know what the definition of racism is. Are you discriminating against racial groups? No.

Reply 17

UGeNe

14

Redpanda91

yes my tutor is a bit weird, he's a middle age ex-university of Kent sociology lecturer, and today he found my picture on his register sheet and kept calling me "beautiful" and "pretty" :s-smilie:

Lol! Freaky... but he sees me as a racist even though he's english himself :p:

sub-consciously aren't most 'white British' intolerate? Not necessarily outspoken, but still!

Reply 18

faber niger

17

EDIT: I think it's because you may have put English for your racial group -- English isn't a racial group, it's a nationality. White British is a racial group. It could be considered racist because it tacitly assumes that being English is to be white (even if you don't think that). But it's a simple mistake; not a real issue.

Reply 19

Redpanda91

OP

15

Probably yeah i think that's what i did :p:

Putting "English" as nationality is racist, apparantly! :S

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