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Reply 20
thanks amazing_trade, the hyponchondriac, in-a-rubbish-job, nobody-loves-me, im-jealous-of-scallies loser for your neg rep, still nice to have a reminder that I am trying to give advice to children on this forum - perhaps next time, sign your rep rather than being a coward

maybe I got the description of vocational wrong - they didn't really even exist when I was at school, we did A-levels that you use for university so don't slate me so much as you're obviously such a specialist in these while I'm not

my main point, which a lot of people understood, was that you aren't going to get straight into a decent degree with A-levels as described above, and that the choice of subjects seems more aligned to going straight into work - unfortunately I see these sorts of questions as 'taking the piss' kind of questions which amazing_trade seems to fall for every time, although unbelievably some do turn out to be serious

at the end of the day, can't believe how my alleged misuse of a single word causes so much offence and moaning when I thought it was obvious as to what point I was getting towards

it is nice to see that the more intelligent ones on here have appreciated my advice and sent me comments reflecting this, sharp as though it may seem, but unfortunately too many dreamers on here such as the guy on another thread trying to justify the counting of General Studies as an A-level for acceptance by PwC......
Reply 21
I can't believe that people are saying some predicted AAA won't get onto a decent degree, sure those subjects won't set you up for a career in investment banking or medicine but there are so many more career paths and degrees available.
marabara


my main point, which a lot of people understood, was that you aren't going to get straight into a decent degree with A-levels as described above,


I consider degrees in politics and theology as decent degrees.


and that the choice of subjects seems more aligned to going straight into work


Please explain to me how Politics, Sociology and Religion Studies are more 'aligned' for going into work than say Maths, English and Science?


at the end of the day, can't believe how my alleged misuse of a single word causes so much offence and moaning when I thought it was obvious as to what point I was getting towards


There is nothing alleged about it, it was just a misuse.


it is nice to see that the more intelligent ones on here have appreciated my advice and sent me comments reflecting this, sharp as though it may seem, but unfortunately too many dreamers on here such as the guy on another thread trying to justify the counting of General Studies as an A-level for acceptance by PwC......


I think it would be difficult to say that the prospects of this particular student are poor.
Reply 23
amazingtrade
Lets not get into the debate about vocational A levels on this thread, all I know is that universities like Manchester appcept them and the pass rates are much lower than tradionational A levels.

ps Vladek I do have a job actually. Vocational subjects are anything that can be directly applied to a job, so medicine, engineering are all examples of vocational subjects.

Woodwork is just an example of a vocational subject.

God knows how Marabarah thinks they are vocational subjects.


Oh AT will you shut up about your beloved Manchester,it's really pathetic, you don't even go there and it's really not that good.
Ah yes, and and a part time job is hardly masses experience of the world of work in that much depth anyway, Vladek I supect was refering to a full-time job when you graduate, because then you will certainly have a much better idea about the job market/what employers want etc.

Btw ppl, RS isn't considered a dossy A-level, isn't it meant to be reasonably rigorous? Or am I thinking of philosophy?
Reply 24
jumpunderaboat
I can't believe that people are saying some predicted AAA won't get onto a decent degree, sure those subjects won't set you up for a career in investment banking or medicine but there are so many more career paths and degrees available.


That's because AAA doesn't mean much nowadays if it's not in decent subjects, whether thats right or wrong, it's just the way it is.
Reply 25
BossLady
That's because AAA doesn't mean much nowadays if it's not in decent subjects, whether thats right or wrong, it's just the way it is.


You mean having AAA is percieved to not mean much by some people on this forum. Getting AAA will still, more often than not, get people onto the degree course of their choice.
Reply 26
jumpunderaboat
You mean having AAA is percieved to not mean much by some people on this forum. Getting AAA will still, more often than not, get people onto the degree course of their choice.


I can't remember the exact statistics but it was somthing like 1 in 1000 of 18 year olds who will achieve those grades and thats any subjects.

Many people on this forum are so obsessed with grades and elite institutions. They are so wrapped up in it all they think anybody with lesser qualifcations can't suceed.
Reply 27
amazingtrade
Many people on this forum are so obsessed with grades and elite institutions. They are so wrapped up in it all they think anybody with lesser qualifcations can't suceed.


They need to find some karmacoma..
Reply 28
amazingtrade
I can't remember the exact statistics but it was somthing like 1 in 1000 of 18 year olds who will achieve those grades and thats any subjects.

Many people on this forum are so obsessed with grades and elite institutions. They are so wrapped up in it all they think anybody with lesser qualifcations can't suceed.


Exactly AAA is a tremendous achievement.
Reply 29
jumpunderaboat
Exactly AAA is a tremendous achievement.


if one of them is General Studies, its just two As
Reply 30
ChemistBoy
I consider degrees in politics and theology as decent degrees.



Please explain to me how Politics, Sociology and Religion Studies are more 'aligned' for going into work than say Maths, English and Science?



There is nothing alleged about it, it was just a misuse.



I think it would be difficult to say that the prospects of this particular student are poor.


if his aiming is in earning a big fat salary straight after his degree, yes they are
Reply 31
amazingtrade
I can't remember the exact statistics but it was somthing like 1 in 1000 of 18 year olds who will achieve those grades and thats any subjects.

Many people on this forum are so obsessed with grades and elite institutions. They are so wrapped up in it all they think anybody with lesser qualifcations can't suceed.


so what? are you saying all subjects are the same? like an A in General Studies is the same as an A in Maths?

yes, most people on this forum are obsessed with elite institutions, mainly because most people are either at or have been to them, or they want to go to them

if that's a problem, maybe join a forum in the lower leagues
Reply 32
and I note amazing_trade is giving me more neg rep by the minute, lol

get a life - I wasn't giving you advice, but unfortunately while you parade around thinking you're hard done by without a decent life, I'll be on three red gems by the end of the week

carry on old boy
Reply 33
marabara
if one of them is General Studies, its just two As


refer to the original post.
amazingtrade

Many people on this forum are so obsessed with grades and elite institutions. They are so wrapped up in it all they think anybody with lesser qualifcations can't suceed.


like who?
marabara


maybe, I should have called them crap A-levels for uni then


lmao - you are funny but you're going to get bashed.....
BossLady


Btw ppl, RS isn't considered a dossy A-level, isn't it meant to be reasonably rigorous? Or am I thinking of philosophy?


LMAO .... the minute RS turns to a rigorous a level is the day is the day physics turns into a doss subject
Reply 37
HaggenDaZ
LMAO .... the minute RS turns to a rigorous a level is the day is the day physics turns into a doss subject


Face it physics is a doss :biggrin:
marabara
if his aiming is in earning a big fat salary straight after his degree, yes they are


Not really. I know plenty of people who have taken those A-levels and studied one of those subjects at university who are doing quite well in the city.

If you get good A-level grades you can get into a good institution and you have the intelligence to get at least a 2:1 from that institution - that's what counts in the job market nowadays.
Reply 39
ChemistBoy
Not really. I know plenty of people who have taken those A-levels and studied one of those subjects at university who are doing quite well in the city.

If you get good A-level grades you can get into a good institution and you have the intelligence to get at least a 2:1 from that institution - that's what counts in the job market nowadays.


My uncle dosn't even have A levels, he used to be a director of a company that owned 35 shops. He was earning far more than most graduates were at the time.

Attitude is just as important as A levels, and not everybody wants to work in the city. I've never done general studies so I cannot comment on that particular A level, yes I am sure it is easier than maths or physics but I bet its still very hard to get an A in it.

You aim to go to the best university you can but you have to be happy there, the real thick people are the ones who go to Oxbridge and hate it but won't go any where else because they feel its not good enough for them.

Also many good universities do accept general studies and I have yet to see a gradute scheme that excludes general studies in the minimum ucas points score.

My proof of this is Bolton Institue, always bottom in league tabkes, you need EE to get in yet on average these graduates earn £18,400 within 6 months of leaving compare that to an average of £16,300. In fact according to the statistics Bolton graduates earn almost as much as Oxbridge ones within the first six months, although you are more likely to be unemployed.

I also I am not suggesting people consider Bolton as an alnerative to Cambridge here, I am just making a point that degrees and A levels are only part of the variables to earn a good wage.

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