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Advice on pictures being exposed that I didn't consent too

I recently found out that someone I have been seeingwith has taken pictures without my knowledge or consent, the only reason that I am aware this has happened is because he told me if I didn't sleep with him then he would post them online. I stopped seeing him because of something that he done and now I'm worried that if I go to the police about any of this he will go through with it post them online and send them to everyone I know. I have blocked him from everything but he keeps finding ways of contacting me and keeps saying that nobody will believe me or just blame it on my mental health. I tried talking with family but they think I'm just over reacting and I can't explain the full truth. I guess I'm just kind of looking for advice on what to do in this situation because I feel vulnerable and scared.
Depends on what kinds of pictures in what kind of context.

Its not illegal to photograph other people in public spaces in of itself, although if they are repeatedly taking pictures of you and/or following you then you may be able to pursue something along the lines of harassment and/or stalking and potentially get some kind of restraining order?

Pictures taken in private property may not be legal. It would generally not be legal for them to take pictures of you within your own property and you could pursue that with the police. If it was within a private property owned by another party (e.g. a business, educational facility, etc) you'd probably need to take it up as a complaint with them about how one of their patrons is engaging with you.

If they're pictures of a sexual nature or something taken without your consent and being released without your consent then the police are definitely able to act on that.
It’s a criminal offence. Read up on Stephen Bear and Georgia Harrison.

The Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 made it an offence to disclose private sexual photographs and films with the intent to cause distress and without consent.

Changes to the law will soon remove the requirement of “intent”

So, you can either get someone you trust to tell him to cool his engines or go to the police, tell them that he is threatening revenge porn (which pretty much establishes intent as it’s ahead of time) and ask them to visit and warm him off (they’d prefer to earn him off than try to prove a case)”

My recommendation is to seriously consider reporting the threat to the police and ask them to put it on record that you have asked him to warn him off. They may also be able to convince him to delete the pictures or face questions about consent, coercion etc
A few questions...

1) How old were you when they were taken?
2) Do you know if your face is included in them?
3) Do you have any distinctive marks (e.g. tattoos, scars birthmarks etc.)
Reply 4
Original post by artful_lounger
Depends on what kinds of pictures in what kind of context.

Its not illegal to photograph other people in public spaces in of itself, although if they are repeatedly taking pictures of you and/or following you then you may be able to pursue something along the lines of harassment and/or stalking and potentially get some kind of restraining order?

Pictures taken in private property may not be legal. It would generally not be legal for them to take pictures of you within your own property and you could pursue that with the police. If it was within a private property owned by another party (e.g. a business, educational facility, etc) you'd probably need to take it up as a complaint with them about how one of their patrons is engaging with you.

If they're pictures of a sexual nature or something taken without your consent and being released without your consent then the police are definitely able to act on that.


Of a sexual nature. I don’t want to go to the police because of some of the things he’s threatened and previously done without going into too much detail. I don’t really know what I was hoping for but this is something I don’t feel safe doing because of things that have been said by him and also people he has relationships with working within that sector.
Reply 5
Original post by Old Skool Freak
A few questions...

1) How old were you when they were taken?
2) Do you know if your face is included in them?
3) Do you have any distinctive marks (e.g. tattoos, scars birthmarks etc.)


From what’s he’s sent me and said even tho my face isn’t in them my birthmark and tattoos are which can clearly identify me. I was over 18 when they were taken and I have no idea how they were taken because I at any point do not remember a camera being out or visible if it was I wouldn’t of consented to it.
Reply 6
Original post by Johnny Valentine
It’s a criminal offence. Read up on Stephen Bear and Georgia Harrison.

The Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 made it an offence to disclose private sexual photographs and films with the intent to cause distress and without consent.

Changes to the law will soon remove the requirement of “intent”

So, you can either get someone you trust to tell him to cool his engines or go to the police, tell them that he is threatening revenge porn (which pretty much establishes intent as it’s ahead of time) and ask them to visit and warm him off (they’d prefer to earn him off than try to prove a case)”

My recommendation is to seriously consider reporting the threat to the police and ask them to put it on record that you have asked him to warn him off. They may also be able to convince him to delete the pictures or face questions about consent, coercion etc


I have thought about it but because of some of the things he’s done and said and threatened to do alongside the fact he has relationships with people who work in that’s actor I’m really reluctant on doing this. He’s made me feel like I have no other option than to do what he wants
There's obviously something you're not saying here... which makes it difficult for us to comment / advise appropriately.

You don't have to go into too much detail, but we'd need to know a bit more about this person, what he's done, and why you're reluctant to go to the police. Remember, you're posting anonymously, so provided you don't mention names, or disclose some obvious details, there's little chance of it getting back to you.

Is it a famous / high profile person? Is it someone who's in a position of power / authority over you? Is it someone who uses these boards?
Reply 8
Original post by Anonymous
I have thought about it but because of some of the things he’s done and said and threatened to do alongside the fact he has relationships with people who work in that’s actor I’m really reluctant on doing this. He’s made me feel like I have no other option than to do what he wants

Which is exactly what he is counting on. I would most definitely go to the police. People like him relie on the fact that you are scared to achieve things they are incapable of achieving without menace. It’s just a front.
Original post by Anonymous
I have thought about it but because of some of the things he’s done and said and threatened to do alongside the fact he has relationships with people who work in that’s actor I’m really reluctant on doing this. He’s made me feel like I have no other option than to do what he wants

Well, he won’t listen to you…. He just threatens you

So it’s either do nothing and let him do as he wants, or get someone else to talk to him (a trusted person or the police)

So, which will you choose (that’s the harsh reality)?
Reply 10
Original post by Old Skool Freak
There's obviously something you're not saying here... which makes it difficult for us to comment / advise appropriately.

You don't have to go into too much detail, but we'd need to know a bit more about this person, what he's done, and why you're reluctant to go to the police. Remember, you're posting anonymously, so provided you don't mention names, or disclose some obvious details, there's little chance of it getting back to you.

Is it a famous / high profile person? Is it someone who's in a position of power / authority over you? Is it someone who uses these boards?


It’s nobody like that. I was seeing him for 10 years in the last few weeks, things have changed those years weren’t what it seemed. He came home one night and completely lost it then come back again after leaving with someone he knew. Things were said and done by both of them to me and also by me because I was retaliating and defending myself. Since then he has said and sent various different things amongst those and images he’s taken of me without me knowing sent them to me explaining what and where he intends to put these images if I don’t do what he wants, he’s asked for different things in exchange for not posting them.

He’s proved to me that in the last 10 years what I thought we had together was all just a lie. He’s told me it’s turned out like this because of the way I changed from the person he met so had to get what he wanted s different way. I still don’t know what that means.

I thought he was the nicest and sweetest guy ever but he’s absolutely not. I cannot explain why exactly but what he does for a living makes me petrified of going to the police for several reasons. I know they may be the only people to help and advise me on what to do etc I do not and cannot let him know that I’ve spoken to them which is impossible, I tried talking to my family about this and they think I’m the problem and it’s my fault. I feel so alone and out of control because whatever I do I feel like the situation is just going to get worse no matter how much I try and not think about it or try to stay positive he has all of the control because I don’t feel safe wherever I am.
GO TO THE POLICE !
The person who is doing this to you has some position of power, either legitimate or in some parallel sector and you are scared, BUT if you weren’t too close to the situation you would see that the only way out is the police. Every case of abuse that has ended dramatically in front of the courts because either one party went too far, or the other was pushed over the edge, could, and would have been avoided if the person had gone to the police.
Original post by Anonymous
I recently found out that someone I have been seeingwith has taken pictures without my knowledge or consent, the only reason that I am aware this has happened is because he told me if I didn't sleep with him then he would post them online. I stopped seeing him because of something that he done and now I'm worried that if I go to the police about any of this he will go through with it post them online and send them to everyone I know. I have blocked him from everything but he keeps finding ways of contacting me and keeps saying that nobody will believe me or just blame it on my mental health. I tried talking with family but they think I'm just over reacting and I can't explain the full truth. I guess I'm just kind of looking for advice on what to do in this situation because I feel vulnerable and scared.


Hi there,

Sorry you are going through this.

Just reaching out to you as I wanted to let you know there is support available out there that may be of use:

- Victim Support
https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/
Get in touch anytime for independent, free, and confidential advice:
Call Supportline on 08 08 16 89 111

It’s really important to talk to someone and ask for help. Family, friends or professionals want to make sure you’re safe, but in order to do that they’ll have to know all the facts. Be completely honest let them know what happened and how it’s making you feel.

If you find that any images have been shared you can always use Childline and the Internet Watch Foundation’s Report Remove tool. This helps you to report an image or video shared online and see if it’s possible to get it removed. Once the report has been made, it keeps you updated on any progress and provides support and feedback where necessary.

If you feel you are struggling with your mental health the NHS have urgent mental health helplines are for people of all ages in England. To find a helpline suitable for you, please visit here.https://www.nhs.uk/service-search/me...ealth-helpline
You can call for:
-24-hour advice and support for you, your child, your parent or someone you care for
-help speaking to a mental health professional
-an assessment to find the right care for you

The Samaritans are available 24/7 and can be contacted by calling 116 123 or emailing [email protected]. There are also apps that can help, like Smiling Minds and Headspace.

If you receive more abuse or feel threatened we would encourage you to report it to the police.

Please take care and look after yourself.

Best wishes,
TSR Support
Original post by artful_lounger
Depends on what kinds of pictures in what kind of context.

Its not illegal to photograph other people in public spaces in of itself, although if they are repeatedly taking pictures of you and/or following you then you may be able to pursue something along the lines of harassment and/or stalking and potentially get some kind of restraining order?

Pictures taken in private property may not be legal. It would generally not be legal for them to take pictures of you within your own property and you could pursue that with the police. If it was within a private property owned by another party (e.g. a business, educational facility, etc) you'd probably need to take it up as a complaint with them about how one of their patrons is engaging with you.

If they're pictures of a sexual nature or something taken without your consent and being released without your consent then the police are definitely able to act on that.

Original post by Johnny Valentine
It’s a criminal offence. Read up on Stephen Bear and Georgia Harrison.

The Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 made it an offence to disclose private sexual photographs and films with the intent to cause distress and without consent.

Changes to the law will soon remove the requirement of “intent”

So, you can either get someone you trust to tell him to cool his engines or go to the police, tell them that he is threatening revenge porn (which pretty much establishes intent as it’s ahead of time) and ask them to visit and warm him off (they’d prefer to earn him off than try to prove a case)”

My recommendation is to seriously consider reporting the threat to the police and ask them to put it on record that you have asked him to warn him off. They may also be able to convince him to delete the pictures or face questions about consent, coercion etc

Say if the law is changed to remove the "intent" part, and someone has spread photos of this nature before the wording of the law changed, but the person has been reported afterwards, what law would apply? The one with "intent" or the one without "intent", as technically when the crime was committed the "intent" part was stated in the law.

OP I think you should report him.
Original post by Anonymous
Say if the law is changed to remove the "intent" part, and someone has spread photos of this nature before the wording of the law changed, but the person has been reported afterwards, what law would apply? The one with "intent" or the one without "intent", as technically when the crime was committed the "intent" part was stated in the law.

OP I think you should report him.


Generally, the law that applied at the time of the offence. You can’t, generally, be punished fir breaking a law that didn’t exist.

the caveat is “unless the law says it applies retrospectively”. Those are v v rare because of the above reason and will not happen in this case.
Original post by Johnny Valentine
Generally, the law that applied at the time of the offence. You can’t, generally, be punished fir breaking a law that didn’t exist.

the caveat is “unless the law says it applies retrospectively”. Those are v v rare because of the above reason and will not happen in this case.

For the case I’m talking about though, you could argue though that the law did exist, just that the wording has changed by removing the word “intent”.

So you are saying that when this law changes to remove the word “intent”, that the law will not apply retrospectively ?
Original post by Anonymous
For the case I’m talking about though, you could argue though that the law did exist, just that the wording has changed by removing the word “intent”.

So you are saying that when this law changes to remove the word “intent”, that the law will not apply retrospectively ?


Precisely

otherwise they could pass laws specifically to convict people they don’t like by finding something they did and declaring it illegal after the event

u.e. The law in force at the time applies
Original post by Johnny Valentine
Precisely

otherwise they could pass laws specifically to convict people they don’t like by finding something they did and declaring it illegal after the event

u.e. The law in force at the time applies

Didn’t know that. Thanks for the input. I feel like they should make this clearer, as if someone reports something like this committed before the law change, it might give them false hope.

Maybe they could choose to apply this change of the law retrospectively.
Original post by Anonymous
For the case I’m talking about though, you could argue though that the law did exist, just that the wording has changed by removing the word “intent”.

So you are saying that when this law changes to remove the word “intent”, that the law will not apply retrospectively ?


This is “old” but still relevant

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06454/SN06454.pdf

like I say, it has to specifically state that the change will apply retrospectively and, while it does happen, it’s very rare.

the test is one based on public interest.

on that basis, I suspect that this change will not be retrospectively applied ( it’s just my opinion but their announced plans do not state that they will seek to apply the changes retrospectively https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-crackdown-on-image-based-abuse)
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