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Should I take a gap year

Should I take a gap year and learn a level maths and further maths then go on to do engineering at uni OR stay with my 3 a levels and do natural science? I can’t decide can someone help please 😭
Original post by starrynight01
Should I take a gap year and learn a level maths and further maths then go on to do engineering at uni OR stay with my 3 a levels and do natural science? I can’t decide can someone help please 😭


What A Levels have you done and what are your career aspirations?

If you haven't done Maths or Further Maths, you wouldn't likely be eligible for the physics or maths streams in Natural Science anyway.

If you do pick engineering, what type of engineering do you want to go into?

If you want to keep your options open, it would make a lot more sense to take the gap year. If you just want to presumably go into the life sciences, then I don't think the maths would matter.
Original post by MindMax2000
What A Levels have you done and what are your career aspirations?

If you haven't done Maths or Further Maths, you wouldn't likely be eligible for the physics or maths streams in Natural Science anyway.

If you do pick engineering, what type of engineering do you want to go into?

If you want to keep your options open, it would make a lot more sense to take the gap year. If you just want to presumably go into the life sciences, then I don't think the maths would matter.


I currently have a level biology, chemistry and philosophy
Originally I wanted to do chemical engineering but I need maths for that. I don’t mind doing natural sciences either but I thought if I take a gap year and do maths then uni might be easier? I can’t tell if this is a good plan or if it’s just me one rethinking things a couple of days before results day. Btw I currently have offers to do natural science as my firm and chemistry as my insurance.
Original post by starrynight01
I currently have a level biology, chemistry and philosophy
Originally I wanted to do chemical engineering but I need maths for that. I don’t mind doing natural sciences either but I thought if I take a gap year and do maths then uni might be easier? I can’t tell if this is a good plan or if it’s just me one rethinking things a couple of days before results day. Btw I currently have offers to do natural science as my firm and chemistry as my insurance.


Should you go into natural sciences, the science subjects that you can do would be restricted to life sciences (and possibly philosophy, depending on the natural science degree).
The sort of engineering that you can do with biology and chemistry are bioengineering and chemical engineering (assuming that you have maths), since you don't have physics. If you wanted to do engineering, you would have needed physics for it as well as maths.

As far as I know, securing a place on a natural science degree course from a top end uni isn't easy (I'm trying to do something similar). I don't know what the consequences are should you wish to turn down your offers, do a gap year, and then later reapply for a natural science degree.

Having said that, having maths in your arsenal of A Levels can open a lot more options than just having biology and chemistry. If you do decide to take A Level maths, you are more likely to be considering chemical engineering anyway, so it's up to you in this respect.
Do note, I very much doubt you would later do a postgrad in chemical engineering after a natural science degree specialising in life sciences. However, I remember coming across a master's in chemical engineering that would accept undergrads in chemistry, albeit not from a top end uni.

As Thursday is just right round the corner, you can wait to see how you feel about it on the day before deciding.
Original post by MindMax2000
Should you go into natural sciences, the science subjects that you can do would be restricted to life sciences (and possibly philosophy, depending on the natural science degree).
The sort of engineering that you can do with biology and chemistry are bioengineering and chemical engineering (assuming that you have maths), since you don't have physics. If you wanted to do engineering, you would have needed physics for it as well as maths.

As far as I know, securing a place on a natural science degree course from a top end uni isn't easy (I'm trying to do something similar). I don't know what the consequences are should you wish to turn down your offers, do a gap year, and then later reapply for a natural science degree.

Having said that, having maths in your arsenal of A Levels can open a lot more options than just having biology and chemistry. If you do decide to take A Level maths, you are more likely to be considering chemical engineering anyway, so it's up to you in this respect.
Do note, I very much doubt you would later do a postgrad in chemical engineering after a natural science degree specialising in life sciences. However, I remember coming across a master's in chemical engineering that would accept undergrads in chemistry, albeit not from a top end uni.

As Thursday is just right round the corner, you can wait to see how you feel about it on the day before deciding.


Thank you so much for responding! 😊 I have considered doing natural science and then going into chemical engineering in post grad. Do you think I could study natural science and self teach maths a level. Then once I have maths I can go into chemical engineering? I’ve seen Cambridge do chemical engineering with natural science but I did get rejected from there (hopefully I can apply again through the august reconsideration pool) What are you applying for if you don’t mind me asking?
Original post by starrynight01
Thank you so much for responding! 😊 I have considered doing natural science and then going into chemical engineering in post grad. Do you think I could study natural science and self teach maths a level. Then once I have maths I can go into chemical engineering? I’ve seen Cambridge do chemical engineering with natural science but I did get rejected from there (hopefully I can apply again through the august reconsideration pool) What are you applying for if you don’t mind me asking?


I have considered doing natural science and then going into chemical engineering in post grad.
Sorry, I think I need to correct myself; you would be able to go into some chemical engineering master's (and some are from top end unis), but you won't be able to get into a number of them.

Do you think I could study natural science and self teach maths a level.
You can self teach A Level maths, but I think you would quickly find out that it's not going to be particularly easy, especially alongside a natural science degree. From what I have heard, life sciences tend to be very hands on, so within a typical 40 hour week, you would be pretty much spent on time. A Level Maths is something I wouldn't recommend anything less than 20 hours a week studying (I did it myself, so I know).

Then once I have maths I can go into chemical engineering?
I've looked through a number of the entry requirements for MScs in something related to chemical engineering. Whilst the A Level Maths won't specifically help once you have a degree in chemistry, I still think it's useful because you would be encountering the same sort of maths you would need from the A Level. See the following as examples of the sort of degrees that you might be eligible for:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/courses/postgraduate-taught/advanced-chemical-engineering/
https://www.strath.ac.uk/courses/postgraduatetaught/advancedchemicalengineering/#entryrequirements
https://www.ed.ac.uk/studying/postgraduate/degrees/index.php?r=site/view&edition=2023&id=913
https://courses.hud.ac.uk/full-time/postgraduate/chemical-engineering-msc-by-research
https://online.stanford.edu/programs/chemical-engineering-ms-degree (I thought this was interesting considering it's online)
https://www.ncl.ac.uk/postgraduate/degrees/5031f/
https://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/engineering-applied-sciences/chemical/msc-chemical-engineering/#entry-requirements=is-expanded
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/graduate/taught-degrees/chemical-process-engineering-msc
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/courses/advanced-chemical-engineering-masters-msc#entry
https://www.hull.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught/advanced-chemical-engineering-msc
I am not entirely sure how closely related a degree in life sciences or a joint chemistry degree would be for chemical engineering, but it's worth a shot.
I am also looking into the iChemE accreditation for chartered purposes, but I am not sure whether you would need an undergrad in chemical engineering to get the full accreditation.

I’ve seen Cambridge do chemical engineering with natural science but I did get rejected from there (hopefully I can apply again through the august reconsideration pool)
That's interesting to know. I didn't know Cambridge offers that in their natural science course.
Good luck on the reconsideration.

What are you applying for if you don’t mind me asking?
My ultimate aim is to finish with a bachelor's/integrated master's in physics and chemistry or physical sciences (via natural science degree), so long there's 50% content in physics and 50% content in chemistry. Depending on the direction that I want to take my research, I might do a master's in engineering on top before going for the PhD.

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