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Hi! Anyone else has an interview this week for “Law and Professional Practice” MSc? How did you do on the LNAT? What are the thoughts on the program.

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Reply 1

If you love yourself don’t do this course I beg you. We all hated it and regretted ever enrolling in it. The day I accepted the offer was a cursed day

Reply 2

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by jwiiuee
If you love yourself don’t do this course I beg you. We all hated it and regretted ever enrolling in it. The day I accepted the offer was a cursed day
haha wha happened. undergrad has been great
(edited 1 year ago)

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by jwiiuee
If you love yourself don’t do this course I beg you. We all hated it and regretted ever enrolling in it. The day I accepted the offer was a cursed day
This is one of the more amusing posts I've read on this forum.

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by jesskws
hii, do you mind elaborating? just curious as i just got my offer x


Hey! I got an offer too! Did u get any more emails or just the offer for now? :smile:

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by jesskws
hii, do you mind elaborating? just curious as i just got my offer x
I have a post about this on my account. Long story short is that it’s an incredibly difficult programme and no one got a distinction or anything close to it. The average grade was a pass, and all the exams were closed book, it costs more than a PGDL at ULaw or BPP does just for the KCL name despite it being the exact same course (apart from EU law being studied), the grades were very very poor through no fault of the students, the department just hates you. It’s very very business centric, it’s really designed with the assumption that you will become a corporate lawyer - I want to go into family practice so this was just hellish. A lot of students did not continue to the MSc year, I dropped out of it because it would’ve been a further waste of my time. Do your law conversion course at ULaw or BPP or city

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by jesskws
hii, do you mind elaborating? just curious as i just got my offer x
If you don't mind me asking did you have any legal work experience before applying, and what did you study before?

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by Karol-origin
Hey! I got an offer too! Did u get any more emails or just the offer for now? :smile:
If you don't mind me asking did you have any legal work experience before applying, and what did you study before?

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by jesskws
hey! i'm in my final year of an international relations degree right now. I don't have much legal work experience tbh haha, i volunteered for a legal clinic for a few months and did virtual vacation schemes but yeah that's about it
Thanks :smile: I'm worried because I've been working full time for a couple of years and looking for work experience for 6 months. I'm really struggling to find any that I can do with a full time job. The virtual vaccination schemes look really good!

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by jwiiuee
I have a post about this on my account. Long story short is that it’s an incredibly difficult programme and no one got a distinction or anything close to it. The average grade was a pass, and all the exams were closed book, it costs more than a PGDL at ULaw or BPP does just for the KCL name despite it being the exact same course (apart from EU law being studied), the grades were very very poor through no fault of the students, the department just hates you. It’s very very business centric, it’s really designed with the assumption that you will become a corporate lawyer - I want to go into family practice so this was just hellish. A lot of students did not continue to the MSc year, I dropped out of it because it would’ve been a further waste of my time. Do your law conversion course at ULaw or BPP or city

Do you reckon in a few years, this might see some improvements?

Reply 10

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by jwiiuee
If you love yourself don’t do this course I beg you. We all hated it and regretted ever enrolling in it. The day I accepted the offer was a cursed day

Hi!!! Really hoping you would reply to this!!!Did you do an interview and if so what are the questions like? Also why do you hate it so much? how bad is it??

Reply 11

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by Karol-origin
Hi! Anyone else has an interview this week for “Law and Professional Practice” MSc? How did you do on the LNAT? What are the thoughts on the program.

How was your interview experience?

Reply 12

Hey guys, current student doing the Law and Professional practise course (in the second half of 1st year), since they started running the course it definitely has gone through shifts in the way they assess us. I remember reading Jwiiuee’s post before applying and wondering if I was making the right decision. As of my year, half of the modules are coursework assessed, and the other half are closed-book in person exams. It definitely is hard, some modules are more easier to understand than others, and it is a completely new skill-set you have to adjust to. I did Classics for my undergrad, so I entered thinking that it would be similar. But King’s takes on a very problem-based approach. So it is not just about learning the law, but more so how to apply it to real scenarios. The teachers in the modules I just had (Tort, Crime, Contract and Constitutional & Administrative) are really supportive and nice. I can’t speak for the class, but whenever I needed them.

In comparison to other universities providing the PGDL, it is very expensive at King’s. You’re looking at over £15K for the year without Master’s funding (If you choose the 2 year MSc then only 1 of those years you get the Masters tuition loan) and it is expected that you have this money before you apply for the course.

All that being said, I did get advice from solicitors who work in magic circle firms, and all of them said if I get into King’s then I should pick King’s. They didn’t say anything was bad with other universities, however the name King’s does hold weight once you go out and start applying for things.

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by kayleejade.yuen
Hey guys, current student doing the Law and Professional practise course (in the second half of 1st year), since they started running the course it definitely has gone through shifts in the way they assess us. I remember reading Jwiiuee’s post before applying and wondering if I was making the right decision. As of my year, half of the modules are coursework assessed, and the other half are closed-book in person exams. It definitely is hard, some modules are more easier to understand than others, and it is a completely new skill-set you have to adjust to. I did Classics for my undergrad, so I entered thinking that it would be similar. But King’s takes on a very problem-based approach. So it is not just about learning the law, but more so how to apply it to real scenarios. The teachers in the modules I just had (Tort, Crime, Contract and Constitutional & Administrative) are really supportive and nice. I can’t speak for the class, but whenever I needed them.
In comparison to other universities providing the PGDL, it is very expensive at King’s. You’re looking at over £15K for the year without Master’s funding (If you choose the 2 year MSc then only 1 of those years you get the Masters tuition loan) and it is expected that you have this money before you apply for the course.
All that being said, I did get advice from solicitors who work in magic circle firms, and all of them said if I get into King’s then I should pick King’s. They didn’t say anything was bad with other universities, however the name King’s does hold weight once you go out and start applying for things.

Ditto!

Also a first year here starting the second semester. This year we're a large cohort compared to the past two years. I think last year it was around 50 students, this year we're around 100! I was told that they are thinking of increasing that number for the following year as well. One of the downsides of having such a large cohort is that it can be hard to get through an entire lecture occasionally (which happened a couple of times) since a lot of us have questions to ask. Even during the workshops they can be quite packed full of information to cover, but it helps a significant amount with the way they structure our class and separating us into smaller groups.

Overall I think the quality of teaching has been fantastic for a lot of the modules taken so far. However, like any university with multiple lecturers teaching on a single course, there will be different personalities and each student will gel well with specific lecturers and modules more than others, so it's to be expected that there will be some modules that are more challenging than others. My personal favourites were Crime and Constitutional/Administrative Law because of the workshops.

Another thing to be mindful of is that there will rarely be an opportunity to take a break, we worked through our summative coursework over the Winter holidays, and then went straight to doing our exams right after New Year's. We've been set to start our second semester only a few days after the last exam. Before taking a law conversion course, it's really important fully know the reason you're willing to pursue a career in law and what you want most out of it, and that you're willing to commit a lot of hours working through it. Being aware of your purpose for taking the course really helps you get through some hard days.

If you're prepared to put in the work, and that you know why you really want to go through with this commitment, I find that a course like KCL's Law & Professional Practice to be worth it.

Best of luck!

Reply 14

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by Frankie-:)
How was your interview experience?


if anyone has an answer to this would love to hear it

Reply 15

Would you recommend this course to an EU international trying to break into the UK law? Also, are there any international students in your cohort?

Reply 16

Would you recommend this course to an EU national who finished his/her undergrad in the UK and wants to break into the UK law? Do you have a lot of (if any) internationals in your cohort?

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by stresssedd
if anyone has an answer to this would love to hear it

Slightly late response, but I interviewed a few weeks back an now have an offer. The interview was UNBELIEVABLY SHORT, to the point where it's hard to believe they can ascertain enough about you to offer a place! It was a 15 minute slot, my interview was probably 8 minutes and it was just introductions, motivations, capability to deal with academic rigour etc. The usual.

Not a particularly out of the box interview experience, but is helpful to be averaging well in your current degree and understand your motivations. Also we discussed work experience in my interview.

Reply 18

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by Deciss
Slightly late response, but I interviewed a few weeks back an now have an offer. The interview was UNBELIEVABLY SHORT, to the point where it's hard to believe they can ascertain enough about you to offer a place! It was a 15 minute slot, my interview was probably 8 minutes and it was just introductions, motivations, capability to deal with academic rigour etc. The usual.
Not a particularly out of the box interview experience, but is helpful to be averaging well in your current degree and understand your motivations. Also we discussed work experience in my interview.
did you accept your offer?

Reply 19

is it very hard to get an offer for this course? they mention a 2.1 on their website and i just applied with my interim transcripts (with a 2.1) but ill get my final transcripts (with a 1st) next week. i applied now just because i was scared that they’ll run out of spots. my BAs in art and am super stressed about the whole process. how long does it usually take them to decide?

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