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Euphoria / Depression

I think I may have depression. I've been to see a doctor about it, and I'll be having counselling in the new year.

But... I get these REALLY strong mood swings. One minute I am feeling incredibly bleak, then for no apparent reason I am on top of the world the next moment.

Generally I am more 'down' than 'up'. But it's odd, right?

I thought I had bipolar, but the cycles are apparently far longer. I can go from one extreme to the other (and back again) in half an hour.

Has anyone else experienced this? Please let me know...
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Original post by Journalistic
I think I may have depression. I've been to see a doctor about it, and I'll be having counselling in the new year.

But... I get these REALLY strong mood swings. One minute I am feeling incredibly bleak, then for no apparent reason I am on top of the world the next moment.

Generally I am more 'down' than 'up'. But it's odd, right?

I thought I had bipolar, but the cycles are apparently far longer. I can go from one extreme to the other (and back again) in half an hour.

Has anyone else experienced this? Please let me know...


The symptoms sounds accurate, but the swing times are not sitting all that well with me. Best to see someone. The Euphoria and Depressive changes are a definite indication of manic depression. Not just being a bit sad.
Original post by Journalistic
I think I may have depression. I've been to see a doctor about it, and I'll be having counselling in the new year.

But... I get these REALLY strong mood swings. One minute I am feeling incredibly bleak, then for no apparent reason I am on top of the world the next moment.

Generally I am more 'down' than 'up'. But it's odd, right?

I thought I had bipolar, but the cycles are apparently far longer. I can go from one extreme to the other (and back again) in half an hour.

Has anyone else experienced this? Please let me know...


I also have those moodswings. It's probably a sign of something and u should talk to someone about maybe why u are feeling like that. So councelling will be good. I already know why I go up and down and I know that I might need to see someone but I can't afford it where I live and I'm not suicidal so I'm ok so far

I hope ur not suicidal, are u?
In that case u definitely need to see someone otherwise a mild depression and mood swings in general I think is quite common, so dont worry u'll be fine since as u said bipolar isn't really in half an hour it's more extreme
Original post by markrush
The symptoms sounds accurate, but the swing times are not sitting all that well with me. Best to see someone. The Euphoria and Depressive changes are a definite indication of manic depression. Not just being a bit sad.


Really? :/ Maybe I also need to see someone then...well at least this person is getting counselling and will probably find our more then. Since I think one has to go to one session before the doctor/psychologist/councellor can deside on what is what
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Original post by MizzCupcakes
Really? :/ Maybe I also need to see someone then...well at least this person is getting counselling and will probably find our more then. Since I think one has to go to one session before the doctor/psychologist/councellor can deside on what is what


Hi Mizz. There are cardinal rules of health. Do not diagnose online, and DO NOT diagnose online. We're all been there few aches and pains and something a bit odd. Five minutes and some googling later and we are writing our goodbyes to our love ones.

Out of interest, and you are free to choose to answer. Why do you think you go up or down. Either you are totally aware, which is good, or you might be surprised by the results.

Why do you think that it will cost money to talk to someone?
Original post by markrush
Hi Mizz. There are cardinal rules of health. Do not diagnose online, and DO NOT diagnose online. We're all been there few aches and pains and something a bit odd. Five minutes and some googling later and we are writing our goodbyes to our love ones.

Out of interest, and you are free to choose to answer. Why do you think you go up or down. Either you are totally aware, which is good, or you might be surprised by the results.

Why do you think that it will cost money to talk to someone?


Nah because if I want to talk to a psychiatrist here(Sweden) I either have to wait forever because of the waiting list or pay to see a private one. If I wanna see a psychologist I'll have to pay approximately 60pounds a week for only 45 minutes, and some have even higher fees. I've tried talking to counsellors when I was in school but she never let me speak! I mean I came there voluntarily and needed help and all she did was talk about her life and other people's situations and how being depressed can be normal without hearing my problems!

Anyway now my problem is few friends, lack of motivation in life even though I have a goal it seems so far away yadayada so I know it's normal but one cant help feeling a bit sad sometimes. Though I also get these moodswings where I am happyhappy in one hour and then the next I just cant even force a smile on my face.. I think maybe it's become a routine for me to just sorta think "okay I have to be happy" and I manage to be but actually I feel sad..I dunno it's just weird. All I know is that I do have to talk to someone (preferably a professional) about the past to be able to move on and understand myself.
So yeah that is what I think, though as u said it might be for a completely other reason and that's what I think I need to find out... sorry that it got soo long, gotta learn to speak/write more concise
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Original post by MizzCupcakes
Nah because if I want to talk to a psychiatrist here(Sweden) I either have to wait forever because of the waiting list or pay to see a private one. If I wanna see a psychologist I'll have to pay approximately 60pounds a week for only 45 minutes, and some have even higher fees. I've tried talking to counsellors when I was in school but she never let me speak! I mean I came there voluntarily and needed help and all she did was talk about her life and other people's situations and how being depressed can be normal without hearing my problems!

Anyway now my problem is few friends, lack of motivation in life even though I have a goal it seems so far away yadayada so I know it's normal but one cant help feeling a bit sad sometimes. Though I also get these moodswings where I am happyhappy in one hour and then the next I just cant even force a smile on my face.. I think maybe it's become a routine for me to just sorta think "okay I have to be happy" and I manage to be but actually I feel sad..I dunno it's just weird. All I know is that I do have to talk to someone (preferably a professional) about the past to be able to move on and understand myself.
So yeah that is what I think, though as u said it might be for a completely other reason and that's what I think I need to find out... sorry that it got soo long, gotta learn to speak/write more concise


Ah makes more sense now that it's not NHS. I have my issues with it but it is better than many alternatives.

I think that is what you expect often from school guidance and health counsellors. There was a uni counsellor I knew once. He was in the severe stages of parkinsons disease. This man still walked into work, okay this is not mean when I say this, he kind of walked but he managed to do it, you would find yourself watching; not to stare but with respect that he was a fighter. He moved his own furniture round when he wanted to change things. But brilliantly he listened to peoples problems. I know many students who felt guilty unloading their issues on him when he had a lot more to complain about; but he drew it out of them nonetheless. He became an inspiration for me and many people. Okay I just realised that there is a good chance he has now passed and welled up a bit. He left his mark on the world and the ripples of his work have gone outwards.

Don't worry about rambling. I just did, it's human nature to talk and share experiences.

What you have described sounds quite typically teenage, however, it if bothers you enough to seek help then you are right it could be more. The ups and downs are right. Maybe it's not as much manic depression as it is having someone help you understand yourself and work out the pathway for you to achieve what you want to. Just remember as well, little things to other people can be legitimately big things to you. I know most people would never understand what bothers me, but I don't mind, it's what makes us all different.
Original post by markrush
Ah makes more sense now that it's not NHS. I have my issues with it but it is better than many alternatives.

I think that is what you expect often from school guidance and health counsellors. There was a uni counsellor I knew once. He was in the severe stages of parkinsons disease. This man still walked into work, okay this is not mean when I say this, he kind of walked but he managed to do it, you would find yourself watching; not to stare but with respect that he was a fighter. He moved his own furniture round when he wanted to change things. But brilliantly he listened to peoples problems. I know many students who felt guilty unloading their issues on him when he had a lot more to complain about; but he drew it out of them nonetheless. He became an inspiration for me and many people. Okay I just realised that there is a good chance he has now passed and welled up a bit. He left his mark on the world and the ripples of his work have gone outwards.

Don't worry about rambling. I just did, it's human nature to talk and share experiences.

What you have described sounds quite typically teenage, however, it if bothers you enough to seek help then you are right it could be more. The ups and downs are right. Maybe it's not as much manic depression as it is having someone help you understand yourself and work out the pathway for you to achieve what you want to. Just remember as well, little things to other people can be legitimately big things to you. I know most people would never understand what bothers me, but I don't mind, it's what makes us all different.


yup I'm actually writing an essay on the differences between the Swedish health care system and the NHS :smile: have to be working on it right now but am procrastinating big time.. oh well I'll get round to it.

The thing is seeking help doesnt bother me, the problem was that I never got help from the people that I did seek help from (like that counsellor in my school). So at that time I ended up on a forum, not like tsr but sorta. and talked to some people and they really helped me feel appreciated, since I helped others a lot but I just couldnt take it after a while since I understood that I had to help myself before being able to help others.
I have talked to my mom, and I'm lucky to have her but I feel like I need to talk to a proffsional too, at least someday I manage right now but I think I have to deal with the past (bullying and **** like that) before I can completely move on.

Thanks for the words of comfort, it always helps to know that genuine people do exist :smile:
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Original post by MizzCupcakes
yup I'm actually writing an essay on the differences between the Swedish health care system and the NHS :smile: have to be working on it right now but am procrastinating big time.. oh well I'll get round to it.

The thing is seeking help doesnt bother me, the problem was that I never got help from the people that I did seek help from (like that counsellor in my school). So at that time I ended up on a forum, not like tsr but sorta. and talked to some people and they really helped me feel appreciated, since I helped others a lot but I just couldnt take it after a while since I understood that I had to help myself before being able to help others.
I have talked to my mom, and I'm lucky to have her but I feel like I need to talk to a proffsional too, at least someday I manage right now but I think I have to deal with the past (bullying and **** like that) before I can completely move on.

Thanks for the words of comfort, it always helps to know that genuine people do exist :smile:


I would be interested to see the differences. I was reading recently how a great guy, Tony Wilson, was denied cancer drugs because he lived in an area that didn't support it even for life prolonging, yet just a few miles away people were allowed it for more minor conditions. Now just because he was a celebrity isn't important, more that it helped highlight the issue with more clarity.

Forums can be good, but also the internet does attract people who can be.....more extreme. Glad your mum was there though. Honestly I would not worry about manic depression if I were you, more you just need to talk a lot out, with someone who knows how to help.

Glad I could help.
Original post by markrush
I would be interested to see the differences. I was reading recently how a great guy, Tony Wilson, was denied cancer drugs because he lived in an area that didn't support it even for life prolonging, yet just a few miles away people were allowed it for more minor conditions. Now just because he was a celebrity isn't important, more that it helped highlight the issue with more clarity.

Forums can be good, but also the internet does attract people who can be.....more extreme. Glad your mum was there though. Honestly I would not worry about manic depression if I were you, more you just need to talk a lot out, with someone who knows how to help.

Glad I could help.


Yeah it is interesting to read about though I am having trouble finding much on the nhs and news about it...I am looking on the bbc website and the bmj but can't really find much for some reason...do u have any recommendations? the guardian? or the telegraph? dunno of others, any local ones?
that said I have some information.. and I am taking it more from a general perspective. I am writing it for my english course and could send it to u after it's finished (prolly by the end of this week) if u want :P u could check its accuracy regarding the nhs and spelling/grammar since my peer review group isnt really working out :s-smilie: since it's only gonna be 8 pages on word with 1,5 spaces it's not that much really but yeah ur choice :smile:

no I wont worry about manic depression, I dont really think it fits my profile either, just worry bout it sometimes. though I always think that I can't have that specific problem eg if I think I am depressed I'll be like "no I probably dont have depression since I am still clearminded and can ask myself that question"
yeah I'll try to be more optimistic
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Original post by MizzCupcakes
Yeah it is interesting to read about though I am having trouble finding much on the nhs and news about it...I am looking on the bbc website and the bmj but can't really find much for some reason...do u have any recommendations? the guardian? or the telegraph? dunno of others, any local ones?
that said I have some information.. and I am taking it more from a general perspective. I am writing it for my english course and could send it to u after it's finished (prolly by the end of this week) if u want :P u could check its accuracy regarding the nhs and spelling/grammar since my peer review group isnt really working out :s-smilie: since it's only gonna be 8 pages on word with 1,5 spaces it's not that much really but yeah ur choice :smile:

no I wont worry about manic depression, I dont really think it fits my profile either, just worry bout it sometimes. though I always think that I can't have that specific problem eg if I think I am depressed I'll be like "no I probably dont have depression since I am still clearminded and can ask myself that question"
yeah I'll try to be more optimistic


The nature of the NHS being both a centralised and decentralised system makes it tough to totally pin down. My knowledge is also limited, but in general each local NHS Trust sets is own budget and guidelines themselves.

This is what results in what is known as the "postcode lottery" do you live in the area for treatment for that drug. It's not as bad as it sounds and the US arguments against the NHS earlier this year were lubricious, but still it can lead to an inequality. As a part socialist my views are being eroded and even I now also have private insurance to top up just in case I need it. Other than that....sources. Good question. Google/Wikipedia to find the information out, although you cannot really use them as sources per se. For newspapers, The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Times and The Independent. Plus the Act of Law that created the NHS and the amendments that followed.

Feel free to send it over, both for my academic interest and also to proof read.

It sounds like you have your head screwed on so I think that you are going in the right direction.

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