Ireland. british or irish?

Errm, my point was that Wales and Scotland should be independent as well

It is naturally part of the British Isles, in that sense all of us are racially, culturally and linguistically linked, regardless of the politics.

Using the Spain analogy why does Portugal get to be independent and not Catalonia?

Feck people, they can say for themselves, what about Rockall?

just out of interest ,do the celtic 'family' in scotland consider themselves irish or scottish.

I couldn't speak for anyone but myself. Certainly the majority of us have an affinity for Ireland as is apparent by the many tricolours on display at a given match.

As someone of irish (catholic) descent myself ,still with connections in eire ,i think your statement really points to the only solution to peace in ireland,and a stronger uk. I just think we should put in a eu funded policy that would allow for resettlement of irish people in the uk -particularly scotland- back to ireland (preferably ulster) ,and for the protestant irish (who probably consider themselves scottish) to re-settle in scotland

As someone of irish (catholic) descent myself ,still with connections in eire ,i think your statement really points to the only solution to peace in ireland,and a stronger uk. I just think we should put in a eu funded policy that would allow for resettlement of irish people in the uk -particularly scotland- back to ireland (preferably ulster) ,and for the protestant irish (who probably consider themselves scottish) to re-settle in scotland

As someone of irish (catholic) descent myself ,still with connections in eire ,i think your statement really points to the only solution to peace in ireland,and a stronger uk. I just think we should put in a eu funded policy that would allow for resettlement of irish people in the uk -particularly scotland- back to ireland (preferably ulster) ,and for the protestant irish (who probably consider themselves scottish) to re-settle in scotland

There is no way that ireland is culturally linked with britian apart from us being celts, as scotland and wales were but that has nothing to do with england.

Is it because we both speak english? we were forced to speak to english and if we did not we were shot, same goes for if we participated in any irish sports.

As someone of irish (catholic) descent myself ,still with connections in eire ,i think your statement really points to the only solution to peace in ireland,and a stronger uk. I just think we should put in a eu funded policy that would allow for resettlement of irish people in the uk -particularly scotland- back to ireland (preferably ulster) ,and for the protestant irish (who probably consider themselves scottish) to re-settle in scotland

Your pretend ethnic classifications and bizarre cultural generalisations are as facile now as they were in the 19th century.



Yes, a common language, some shared sports, a common political tradition and so forth are just some of the things that culturally link Ireland with Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Anyway, your oppression complex is showing. Needless to say, if you think that's the reason why English and football are popular in Ireland, you're completely wrong.

I'm only stating the facts. Like I said I studied irish history and intercultural studies and there is a lot that you don't know so just stay out of it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so get over yourself.

You're suggesting you're stating facts, then you suggest you're presenting opinion. Which is it? In fact, I'm quite able to tell you: it's bull-****, and all your "I've studied Irish history" nonsense (at a further education college in Cork, it seems) won't save you from that.

Correct.

You talk a fair amount of ****e yourself, however; indeed I would go so far as to suggest that anybody discussing Irish politics with someone who thinks the Good Friday agreement represented nothing more than vindication for those who oppose a united Ireland is wasting their breath.

Like most Tories, you have absolutely no grasp of the sensibilities of Irish history and are absolutely determined to see the situation through a rigidly black and white lens.

You're suggesting you're stating facts, then you suggest you're presenting opinion. Which is it? In fact, I'm quite able to tell you: it's bull-****, and all your "I've studied Irish history" nonsense (at a further education college in Cork, it seems) won't save you from that.

You're entitled to your ridiculous opinions, and I'm entitled to tell you when they're ridiculous. I've highlighted both where you are being historically inaccurate - frankly your interpretation of Irish history would make a Sinn Fein MP blush - and your ludicrous claims about cultural separation. Your opinions are based on nothing more than two-bit ingrained Irish nationalism, and no-one's going to buy that here.

You seriously must have nothing to do if your checking online what college I attend. By the way it's the best one in Cork and basically a route to uni if you do not want to repeat your exams so gloat in the mirror to yourself. yes studied Irish history, It's called the leaving certificate by the way, you know the more advanced version of the A-levels?? how would know anything about this country you don't live here nor did you grow up with the history that we have. I don't know why your trying to fight a battle that your not going to win, your English, i'm Irish so don't even try to tell me what my country's history is. Or do you just seem to think you know it all? All anyone is doing on here is disagreeing with you.